# Hell yeah for Heller - Gun Owners Rejoice!!!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-yeah-for-heller-gun-owners-rejoice/454328>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 26, 2008, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-yeah-for-heller-gun-owners-rejoice/454328 "2008-06-26T16:46:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-yeah-for-heller-gun-owners-rejoice/454328/1 "2008-06-26T16:46:54Z")

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Not a gun debate.

Simply a place where we can all collectively say:

HOORAY!!!

The court has ruled in Heller’s favor. 5-4. More information [here.](http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/)

Ironically, my dad just got back from a month in Eastern Europe this morning. He brought me back an original Romainan WASR(AK-47) bayonet. I wish the rifle came with it but what can I do. He and I are going shooting at the firing range to celebrate tomorrow.

YAAAAAAY! I love Democracy!

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-yeah-for-heller-gun-owners-rejoice/454328/2 "2008-06-26T17:01:03Z")

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As we have been saying: When the _ **Bill of Rights** _ speaks about “the right of the people”, it refers to Individual Rights, not Collective Rights.

I’ve always said that if you allowed them to interpret this amendment as speaking only to a government right to arm militia, then you can interpret the First Amendment “right of the people to freely assemble” as applying only to recognized political parties and only for political purposes. Meaning that a Communist Dictatorship could rule that it allows Communist Party Gatherings, but any other gathering of three or more people is illegal and subversive; and claim that this is entirely constitutional under their interpretation of ‘Collective’ rights.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-yeah-for-heller-gun-owners-rejoice/454328/3 "2008-06-26T17:39:56Z")

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Glad to see that Scalia has discovered the Bill of Rights. While he’s reading, I hope he notices some of the other fine amendments there!

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**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-yeah-for-heller-gun-owners-rejoice/454328/4 "2008-06-26T17:47:09Z")

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Yup, we were discussing that one [in this thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=473202)

Mods–ought we merge these threads?

Tripler  
::does happy dance::

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-yeah-for-heller-gun-owners-rejoice/454328/5 "2008-06-26T18:06:29Z")

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[(PDF) Text of Opinion](http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf).

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**Author:** ![Caffeine.addict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@Caffeine.addict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caffeine.addict)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-yeah-for-heller-gun-owners-rejoice/454328/6 "2008-06-26T19:07:04Z")

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I agree with the thrust of the decision ( I haven’t read it yet). I don’t think that the ban did a whole lot to stop violence in the District. I don’t think I can go out and buy a hand gun just yet however. I am pretty sure that the District will put up a ton of roadblocks to limit what I can and can’t buy.

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**Author:** ![dogbutler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogbutler/32/428_2.png) [@dogbutler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogbutler)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-yeah-for-heller-gun-owners-rejoice/454328/7 "2008-06-26T22:59:46Z")

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:joins **Tripler** in happy dance :

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-yeah-for-heller-gun-owners-rejoice/454328/8 "2008-06-26T23:06:41Z")

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WOO HOO! Common sense prevails. (For now.)

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2008, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-yeah-for-heller-gun-owners-rejoice/454328/9 "2008-06-27T00:00:36Z")

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Maybe I’ll go buy that little Beretta Neo now. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2008, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-yeah-for-heller-gun-owners-rejoice/454328/10 "2008-06-27T00:06:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Argent Towers]  
Gun Owners Rejoice!!!  
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That’s not very inclusive of you.  
What about us people who don’t own guns, but still think today’s decision is the only one that makes a lick of sense?  
Can’t we rejoice too?

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**Author:** ![Amp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Amp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amp)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2008, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-yeah-for-heller-gun-owners-rejoice/454328/11 "2008-06-27T00:10:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Squink]  
That’s not very inclusive of you.  
What about us people who don’t own guns, but still think today’s decision is the only one that makes a lick of sense?  
Can’t we rejoice too?  
[/QUOTE]

Hey, we’re all friends here. Get naked, grab a beer and a firearm of your choice and jump in the hot tub. Oh yeah…

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2008, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-yeah-for-heller-gun-owners-rejoice/454328/12 "2008-06-27T09:57:10Z")

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Guns stay _out_ of the hot tub. And away from the beer.

Though I saw an interesting article on firing guns underwater the other day.

> **[Underwater Handgun Shooting](http://www.dlsports.com/underwater_handgun_shooting.html)**
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> The Home of Quality Custom Firearms, Tactical Training and The Tactical Marksman's Match...

Man, this Awesome Bar is awesome. I didn’t bookmark that, and it pulled it right up.

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**Author:** ![Madd\_Maxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Madd\_Maxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Madd_Maxx)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2008, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-yeah-for-heller-gun-owners-rejoice/454328/13 "2008-06-27T12:34:13Z")

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I’m telling you, an enterprising person would open a gun store in D.C. as soon as possible. That person could probably retire in 2-3 years, tops.

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2008, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-yeah-for-heller-gun-owners-rejoice/454328/14 "2008-06-27T14:13:28Z")

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[QUOTE=Squink]  
That’s not very inclusive of you.  
What about us people who don’t own guns, but still think today’s decision is the only one that makes a lick of sense?  
Can’t we rejoice too?  
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You don’t have to own a gun to have common sense. You may rejoice as well!

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2008, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-yeah-for-heller-gun-owners-rejoice/454328/15 "2008-06-27T14:36:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Madd Maxx]  
I’m telling you, an enterprising person would open a gun store in D.C. as soon as possible. That person could probably retire in 2-3 years, tops.  
[/QUOTE]

Doubtful. You’d spend all your time and money on legal fees fighting the zoning battle.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2008, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-yeah-for-heller-gun-owners-rejoice/454328/16 "2008-06-27T14:42:38Z")

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[QUOTE=control-z]  
You may rejoice as well!  
[/QUOTE]  
Excellent!  
The fireworks stores open this weekend.  
I shall purchase several mortar shells to blow off for freedom!

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2008, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-yeah-for-heller-gun-owners-rejoice/454328/17 "2008-06-27T14:52:44Z")

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[QUOTE=Chimera]  
I’ve always said that if you allowed them to interpret this amendment as speaking only to a government right to arm militia, then you can interpret the First Amendment “right of the people to freely assemble” as applying only to recognized political parties and only for political purposes.  
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[hijack] Then you’ve presumably failed to read the First Amendment, which doesn’t mention political parties or “political purposes”. Which makes sense, when you think about it, since there weren’t any political parties around. [/hijack]

You may now return to your regularly scheduled gun-and-beer-and-nekkid-fest. If you throw in some hookers I’m totally there.
