# Hello.  I am a racist.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 18, 2010, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590 "2010-08-18T00:25:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/541 "2010-08-19T20:05:31Z")

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ETA: Response was to wipetheclock’s post.

Yeah, I read that quote as well. The repeated use of ‘it’ was the most disturbing part, IMHO. It’s the dehumanizing of an entire race, relegating them to something less than human. I mean, you would call a dog a ‘him’ or ‘her’, yet this fucknut is calling a human being an ‘it’.

To me, this is the slippery slope that leads people to murder and genocide.

-XT

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**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/542 "2010-08-19T20:08:35Z")

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> [@Ariovistus](#):
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> Which is worse? To dislike a group of people because of their very real actions as a group (and do nothing to them), or to heap piles of abuse on someone because they have a differing opinion?

You do both, don’t you? I saw that message board and it wasn’t pretty.

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**Author:** ![Ariovistus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@Ariovistus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ariovistus)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/543 "2010-08-19T20:08:43Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> > [@Ariovistus](#):
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> > Which is worse? To dislike a group of people because of their very real actions as a group (and do nothing to them), or to heap piles of abuse on someone because they have a differing opinion?
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> And so we come to your ultimate lie: “you’re just as bad as me!” The claim that your comments and attitude toward black people (your gleeful memory of throwing a chicken bone, your pride in remembering times you’ve been nasty to black people, the fact that you hang around on [chimpout.com](http://chimpout.com) and talk about the niggers for fun - is as bad as the response you’re getting over here in response to your description of those actions. They’re not equivalent. It isn’t close. Sorry.

I actually got as far as taking the tools out of the shed, when a “I wonder” moment hit me…

Yes, I’m a liar.. yes, I’m a fraud… it’s all as you fortold. I’m actually a 68 year old white guy living in a trailer and I cook meth on my off days.. it’s how I get by since nobody wants corn liquor anymore…

My remark about hypocracy.. you define it. Acceptance of all, except those we don’t like… you can’t face the fact that you actually DO do this, and feel this way, so you revert to flinging insults, like poo at the monkey house.

All because you can’t accept your own feelings.

Which is worse? The man who knows his faults and limitations? Or the deluded self-aggrandizing fool who thinks he is better than everyone else because the fool is ‘oh so enlightened’… You, and every other self-congratulatory multiculturalist on this board.

I’ll let you in on a secret… shhhh.

I’ve received PM’s from folks who feel like me… there are (gasp) people on this board who think like I do!! And you don’t know who they are!!

And I’ll never tell… it’ll be more fun watching you lot go around in circles accusing each other..

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/544 "2010-08-19T20:10:19Z")

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> [@Ariovistus](#):
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> I’m going to go pull some fenceposts and string some fence… I’ll let you know what I decide, one way or the other.

While you’re sitting in Mommy’s basement pretending you’re a cowboy, why don’t you go ahead and answer the question from post #512?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/545 "2010-08-19T20:12:37Z")

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[quote=“Ariovistus, post:543, topic:550590”]

> [@Marley23](#):
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> I’ll let you in on a secret… shhhh.
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> I’ve received PM’s from folks who feel like me… there are (gasp) people on this board who think like I do!! And you don’t know who they are!!
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> And I’ll never tell… it’ll be more fun watching you lot go around in circles accusing each other..

Look! The pretend cowboy has imaginary friends!

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/546 "2010-08-19T20:12:46Z")

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I see we’re now at the “martyr” stage.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/547 "2010-08-19T20:13:12Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Is this the Victim Hoedown? I came for the Victim Hoedown. My poor, persecuted white brethren need a fundraiser and a hug.

[We’re still having it - it just got moved.](http://jacksonville.com/news/politics/2010-08-17/story/venue-change-palin-appearance)

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/548 "2010-08-19T20:15:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Ariovistus]  
I’ve received PM’s from folks who feel like me… there are (gasp) people on this board who think like I do!! And you don’t know who they are!!  
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Yeah, like we are going to have a witch hunt for supposed racists on this board. 😛 You are seriously 5 of the stupidest human beings I know, and trust me on this, I know some VERY stupid people.

The irony is that there probably are racists on this message board. It takes all kinds, and I can think of some who would be attracted to your poisonous load of horseshit. On your Chimp Out board I’m guessing there is nary a voice of opposition that isn’t in lock step with the other morons there, and a ‘moderate’ is probably one who is willing to call someone with black skin a ‘him’ or ‘her’, or only use ‘nigger’ in every other sentence.

-XT

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/549 "2010-08-19T20:15:50Z")

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Secret racists! How thrilling! Gosh, I would never have guessed there were racists here!

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/550 "2010-08-19T20:16:57Z")

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OMG the lurkers support him in email? This rhetorical device has never been used [in the history of the Internet](http://barb.velvet.com/humor/lurkers.html)!

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/551 "2010-08-19T20:17:41Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> > [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> > [Ahem.](http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/05/12/99-grammar/)
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> You can’t tell the difference between spelling and grammar? Turn in your Official White Person card, woman.

I can tell the goddamned difference, but I felt that the first paragraph was relevent enough, without being exact:

> [@](#):
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> _ **White people love rules.** _ It explains why so they get upset when people cut in line, why they tip so religiously and why they become lawyers. But without a doubt, the rule system that white people love the most is grammar. It is in their blood not only to use perfect grammar **but also to spend significant portions of time pointing out the errors of others.**

Further, I once again thing you’ve met that rule, by again pointing out the supposed errors of others. You can pry my white person card from my cold, dead hands. How else am I supposed to get away with various criminal offenses with simply a slap on the wrist without it?

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/552 "2010-08-19T20:20:21Z")

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You can get away with far more (and more serious) crimes if you’re rich.

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/553 "2010-08-19T20:21:31Z")

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> [@xtisme](#):
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> The repeated use of ‘it’ was the most disturbing part, IMHO. It’s the dehumanizing of an entire race, relegating them to something less than human.

Worse than that, actually: he’s dehumanizing _a child_.

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**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/554 "2010-08-19T20:21:35Z")

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Ariovistus - I can’t really recall what your attitudes were towards Obama and a few other high profile african americans. What were they? Was it that he is an exception or that it’s the ‘white blood’ (however you would phrase it) that has enabled him to exceed?

You admit that some african americans can excel, correct? Is that because of blood, because they are high on the bell curve, (another option)?

The reason I ask is, if you believe these things, then why doesn’t it make more sense to **encourage breeding along race lines**. That way you can filter out all those undesirable traits? Or encourage artificial selection? Something that would integrate people with traits you find undesirable so that you can weed out those undesirable traits?

It seems to me to be just as reasonable as separatism. So why jump to separatism (sp?)?  
I don’t agree with you on these undesirable traits (ie, your racial theories), FTR.

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**Author:** ![wipetheclock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@wipetheclock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wipetheclock)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/555 "2010-08-19T20:22:57Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> > [@xtisme](#):
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> > The repeated use of ‘it’ was the most disturbing part, IMHO. It’s the dehumanizing of an entire race, relegating them to something less than human.
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> Worse than that, actually: he’s dehumanizing _a child_.

But the child asked him questions!!! And had the nerve to be black :eek:

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/556 "2010-08-19T20:23:50Z")

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Hey, if it’s not too much trouble, why is it okay for you to notice that all the blacks you’ve dealt with act in similar ways, and dislike them as a result…

But not okay for me to notice that all the Kentucky farmers I’ve seen act in similar ways, and dislike them as a result?

For the record, I don’t. Because generalization failure is one of the most insidious logical fallacies.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/557 "2010-08-19T20:24:31Z")

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His behavior was dehumanizing to _his_ children. Well, it would have been had that story actually happened. I’m still sure, though, in general he’s not doing his kids any favors.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/558 "2010-08-19T20:25:05Z")

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> [@Ariovistus](#):
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> I’ve received PM’s from folks who feel like me… there are (gasp) people on this board who think like I do!! And you don’t know who they are!!
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> And I’ll never tell… it’ll be more fun watching you lot go around in circles accusing each other..

Dude, we all knew about **Valteron**.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/559 "2010-08-19T20:26:29Z")

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> [@Ariovistus](#):
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> Which is worse? To dislike a group of people because of their very real actions as a group (and do nothing to them), or to heap piles of abuse on someone because they have a differing opinion?

It’s worse to dislike a group of people for the actions of a few of them, _ **obviously** _. By your dumbass logic it would be correct to arrest all white people because one of them is a murderer.

Whereas you, dear sir, have actually said all the shit we are calling you to task for. This is different from your irrational bigotry in that in our case, the person on the receiving end of the “abuse” is 100% deserving of it.

Of course, you won’t be able to understand this simple fact, which is why it’s also 100% moral and just for us to call you a moron.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/560 "2010-08-19T20:28:23Z")

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I note, with some amusement, that he’d better hope his kids never fuck around like that with any of the adopted black children in my very white family.

I’m actually highly curious, as well, how blanco nino here will react when his kids do some shit like that and some guy like me (very white, ex-football-player, and armed) shows up on his porch to ask him when he wants his kids to talk to the cops about unsafe play.

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