# Hello. I am a racist. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 18, 2010, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590 "2010-08-18T00:25:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Ariovistus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@Ariovistus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ariovistus)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/61 "2010-08-18T02:25:08Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > [QUOTE=RR] > Why do you think the OP should be banned? A prediction less than a judgement. Recent join date? Check. Utterly trollish virgin post? Check. Just a matter of time. Besides, I don’t trouble myself with the moral dimensions of my psychic revelations. That shits depressing, I try to be a happy medium. [/QUOTE] Perhaps you could tell me what, exactly, was trollish about my first post? I specifically went out of my way to say that I was here for honest discourse, that I was not a troll, nobody sent me, offered an olive branch and flat out said that I would never use foul language against any of you, no matter what. Now, you were saying? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/62 "2010-08-18T02:25:38Z")
Just pointing out that you’re perpetuating the stereotype. ---
**Author:** ![Walmarticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Walmarticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walmarticus)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/63 "2010-08-18T02:27:41Z")
> [@Ariovistus](#): > > I admit, I was expecting a flaming for reaching out to this board, but I did not expect the hostility I received just for having a different opinion… “crawl back under your rock”… “you should be banned”, etc, etc… I had to go aways to finally reach someone who welcomed me. I’ll bet nobody has suggested you be banned for being a racist, but for trolling. > [@Ariovistus](#): > > What I did do was “judge” black people, as a group, based on the experience I have accumulated over my entire adult life. It is NOT (!) the color of their skin, it is their actions, values (or lack thereof), morals (or lack thereof), propensity towards violence, destruction of their surroundings, eternal victimhood and constant playing of the race card when faced with a problem. If it is not the color of their skin, then why do you attribute it to a group defined by skin color? > [@Ariovistus](#): > > One thing that I find curious is that reasearch that is done is hooted down as “racist” because the findings do not square with someone’s worldview. Let’s see it. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/64 "2010-08-18T02:28:17Z")
> [@Ariovistus](#): > > I arrived at the opinions I have based on a lifetime of coexistance with many different types of people I don’t believe you. For example, in your preferred lair, you said, > [@Ariovistus](#): > > I led a blissfully nigger-free life until I joined the US Army. ---
**Author:** ![Oldeb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea666f/32.png) [@Oldeb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oldeb)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/65 "2010-08-18T02:31:52Z")
> [@Ariovistus](#): > > a board where I usually hang out: [chimpout.com](http://chimpout.com). > [@Ariovistus](#): > > I did not expect the hostility I received just for having a different opinion Yeah, guys! It’s not like he has a different skin color! That knee jerk hostile attitude was completely unwarranted. It’s not okay to judge people based on opinions without knowing anything about them but stereotypes and vague eugenics theories! ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/66 "2010-08-18T02:33:53Z")
> [@Ariovistus](#): > > I did not wake up one day hating blacks. It was a cumulative thing. And I do not “hate” them. To me, they are like children: … There’s no need any longer to answer my earlier question; I find myself uninterested in engaging you any further. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/67 "2010-08-18T02:35:04Z")
> [@Oldeb](#): > > > [@Ariovistus](#): > > > > a board where I usually hang out: [chimpout.com](http://chimpout.com). > > > [@Ariovistus](#): > > > > I did not expect the hostility I received just for having a different opinion > > Yeah, guys! It’s not like he has a different skin color! That knee jerk hostile attitude was completely unwarranted. It’s not okay to judge people based on opinions without knowing anything about them but stereotypes and vague eugenics theories! fucking gold. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/68 "2010-08-18T02:37:15Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > Got wounded in four places and he starved at Point Lookout. I’m still there looking for Nadine because I stubbornly refuse to use the game guide. … some other Point Lookout? /history buff ---
**Author:** ![GHO57](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/df788c/32.png) [@GHO57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GHO57)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/69 "2010-08-18T02:39:01Z")
This is turning out to be less than amusing… I like the drive-by style trolls better; at least they’re not so damn loquacious. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/70 "2010-08-18T02:42:50Z")
> [@Silver\_Fire](#): > > > [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > > > Got wounded in four places and he starved at Point Lookout. > > I’m still there looking for Nadine because I stubbornly refuse to use the game guide. > > … some other Point Lookout? > > /history buff _Oh, I’m a good old Rebel Now that’s just what I am. For this Yankee nation I do not give a damn. I’m glad I fought agin her, I only wish we’d won. I ain’t asked any pardon For anything I’ve done. I hates the Yankee nation And everything they do. I hates the Declaration Of Independence too. I hates the glorious Union – ‘Tis dripping with our blood – I hates their striped banner, And I fit it all I could. I rode with Robert E. Lee, For three years, thereabouts. Got wounded in four places And starved at Point Lookout. I caughts the rheumatism A-camping in the snow. But I killed a chance of Yankees And I’d like to kill some mo’. Three hundred thousand Yankees is still in Southern dust We got three hundred thousand Before they conquered us. They died of Southern fever And Southern steel and shot. I wish we’d killed three million Instead of what we got. I can’t take up my musket And fight 'em now no more, But I ain’t going to love ‘em, Now that is certain sure; I don’t want no pardon For what I was and am, I won’t be reconstructed And I do not give a damn. Oh I’m a good old rebel now thats just what I am For this yankee nation I do not give a damn I’m glad I fought aga’ her I only wished we’d won I ain’t ask any pardon For anything I done I ain’t ask any pardon For anything I done_It’s the “Confederate Anthem” by racist folk singer Clifford “Johnny Rebel” Trahan. Given the OP’s description of himself (viking beard? Living in a “border state”?), it’s just the kind of music I’d assume he listens to. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/71 "2010-08-18T02:43:46Z")
> [@Silver\_Fire](#): > > > [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > > > Got wounded in four places and he starved at Point Lookout. > > I’m still there looking for Nadine because I stubbornly refuse to use the game guide. Nadine? Who the hell is Nadine? I’m still looking for Carmen Sandiego! The song refers to Point Lookout in the state of Maryland ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/72 "2010-08-18T02:47:36Z")
> [@GHO57](#): > > **loquacious.** Who the fuck goes around using a word like “loquacious”? Oh right, the hyper-effete, leftie pseudo-intelligentsia. There is another group I have on the short list for genocide if I can ever get my act together. ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/73 "2010-08-18T02:49:47Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > > [@GHO57](#): > > > > **loquacious.** > > Who the fuck goes around using a word like “loquacious”? Oh right, the hyper-effete, leftie pseudo-intelligentsia. There is another group I have on the short list for genocide if I can ever get my act together. Speaking as a member of the above category, I am very pleased that it looks unlikely that you ever will. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/74 "2010-08-18T02:51:04Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > It’s the “Confederate Anthem” by racist folk singer Clifford “Johnny Rebel” Trahan. Maybe Trahan, who I’m not familiar with, calls it that. But the song is generally titled “I’m a Good Ole Rebel,” and it was published in 1914 by Major James Innes Randolph. The best-known recordings of it are by Hoyt Axton (who wrote “Joy to the World”) and Waylon Jennings. It’s not a racist song. > [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > Given the OP’s description of himself (viking beard? Living in a “border state”?), it’s just the kind of music I’d assume he listens to. Among a whole lot of other stuff, it’s the kind of music _I_ listen to. And I’d like to put a hot .308 through the OP’s head. ---
**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/75 "2010-08-18T02:52:01Z")
> [@Ariovistus](#): > > Thank you for welcoming me. I admit, I was expecting a flaming for reaching out to this board, but I did not expect the hostility I received just for having a different opinion… Nobody is flaming you for having a “different” opinion. There are plenty of different opinions here. But not all opinions are created equal - some are foolish. If you said the moon landings were faked, or the British royal family were actually lizard-like aliens, you would be flamed for being a moron. Or perhaps pitied and ignored, or just plain laughed at. But your foolish opinions about race are not amusing. They’re harmful, and unfortunately have a tendency to propagate to other foolish people with whom you come into contact. So don’t pretend you’re being singled out just for daring to be different. It’s about the stupid, hateful things you have somehow have come to believe. If it makes you feel any better, I’m not calling for you to be banned and I don’t want you to leave. I’d rather you stuck around and learned that the world doesn’t have to be hateful. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/76 "2010-08-18T02:54:09Z")
> [@spark240](#): > > > [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > > > It’s the “Confederate Anthem” by racist folk singer Clifford “Johnny Rebel” Trahan. > > Maybe Trahan, who I’m not familiar with, calls it that. But the song is generally titled “I’m a Good Ole Rebel,” and it was published in 1914 by Major James Innes Randolph. The best-known recordings of it are by Hoyt Axton (who wrote “Joy to the World”) and Waylon Jennings. It’s not a racist song. Thanks for busting a sticky load of info all over my ignorance. Edit: Though I never said the song itself was racist! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/77 "2010-08-18T02:54:16Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > > [@GHO57](#): > > > > **loquacious.** > > Who the fuck goes around using a word like “loquacious”? Oh right, the hyper-effete, leftie pseudo-intelligentsia. There is another group I have on the short list for genocide if I can ever get my act together. Dude, half the words in the dictionary just sit around gathering dust. Ya gotta air 'em out every once in a while, you poltroon, you. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_the\_Immortal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Max\_the\_Immortal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_the_Immortal)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/78 "2010-08-18T02:58:41Z")
> [@Ariovistus](#): > > I do not “hate” black people. I do, however, dislike them intensely for many reasons and choose to not be around them, nor live anywhere near them. I also understand them quite well. But that is a Catch 22: The more I understand them, the less I like what I see. If I had to put name to the emotions I feel when I think of them, it would be a weak species of pity, combined with revulsion. I noticed that this is the closest you’ve gotten to the meat of the matter in a relatively long OP. Why so brief? Why so vague? In fact, you spend a big chunk of the OP asking everyone to bear with you and hear you out, then another big chunk of the post is devoted to your bio, and then the post just kind of fizzles out. Then you wait about an hour before posting anything else, but the closest you get to describing your viewpoint is: > [@](#): > > As far as “whatever it is I want to talk about”, I thought I made that overwhelmingly clear. Race. Specifically, why I feel the way I do about black people and to field questions from you all as honestly as I can. …which is still very vague. It’s over an hour and a half (and over fifty replies) after your OP that you post anything specific about your views. Even then, that post starts off lamenting the hostility you’ve received. Overall, you’ve spent a lot more time in this thread predicting hostility and then complaining about that hostility (which you interpret as a refusal to evaluate your opinions fairly) than you’ve spent actually expressing your opinions. Why didn’t you just cut to the chase and express and explain your opinions in the OP? ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/79 "2010-08-18T02:59:35Z")
For those of you who think the OP is a troll. Do you see why trolls come here? If you don’t right now, maybe you’ll get it by page 5. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590/80 "2010-08-18T02:59:50Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > > [@Shagnasty](#): > > > > Who the fuck goes around using a word like “loquacious”? Oh right, the hyper-effete, leftie pseudo-intelligentsia. There is another group I have on the short list for genocide if I can ever get my act together. > > Dude, half the words in the dictionary just sit around gathering dust. Ya gotta air 'em out every once in a while, you poltroon, you. Hey, that’s MY word! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-i-am-a-racist/550590.md?page=5)