# Hello, this is a response to "Followup: wasn't manna placed in the Ark of the Covenant?" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cecil's Columns/Staff Reports\ **Created:** [April 21, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903 "2010-04-21T18:51:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ChristVolo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b77776/32.png) [@ChristVolo1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChristVolo1)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/1 "2010-04-21T18:51:26Z")
Hello, I was actually just reading this section yesterday, and it did say that when the day before the Sabbath came, they were to collect extra, and eat what they needed that day, and set aside the rest for the Sabbath. No one was to go out to gather manna on that day, as it was a day of rest. When those who followed those simple commands opened up the manna the next day, it was fine. It seems that the manna only spoiled when they didn’t follow directions. This was a test to see if they would do what God said. And notice, the manna didn’t spoil when God decreed that it wouldn’t spoil. In that case, it’s very possible that the manna that was stored in that container never spoiled. Just thought I’d throw that out there… In Exodus 16:33-34, it does indeed say that it was intended to be preserved for all future generations. If that was God’s intent, you can bet He’d be able to cause it not to decay if He didn’t want it to. In the NLT, it actually says that Aaron did eventually place it inside the Ark. Ex. 16:33-34 (NLT) Moses said to Aaron, “Get a container and put two quarts of manna into it. Then store it in a sacred place as a reminder for all future generations.” 34 Aaron did this, just as the LORD had commanded Moses. He eventually placed it for safekeeping in the Ark of the Covenant. Hebrews 9:4 (KJV and NLT) actually says, “which had the golden altar of incense and the gold-covered ark of the covenant. This ark contained the gold jar of manna, Aaron’s staff that had budded, and the stone tablets of the covenant.” Also, as a side comment about the Ark of the Covenant vs. Noah’s Ark…regardless of the fact that two different Hebrew words were used, if you think about it, both Arks resembled a covenant. The Ark of the Covenant stood for the rules by which the covenant between God and Abraham’s seed operated, and Noah’s Ark represented a promise to ensure that the human race survived. …And, of course, the rainbow was the sign of His covenant to never again flood the Earth to destroy it and its inhabitants because of their wickedness. In other words, God’s Mercy. I just like to point that out now and again, just in case there are those who are still confused as to what, exactly, the rainbow is supposed to stand for. Just saying. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/2 "2010-04-21T20:02:25Z")
Couldn’t he have just spelt his message out with ginormous sparkly letters, or was he in a bit of a rush? ---
**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/3 "2010-04-21T21:05:32Z")
Ostentatious displays of miracles aught not occur. The book (not the one referred to above) points out that the Babel Fish (a universal translator) could not possibly have developed naturally, and therefore proves the existence of God as its creator. However, as Man points out, God needs faith to exist, and this proof dispels the need for faith, therefore causing God to vanish in a puff of logic. Then Man says, “my, that was easy” and goes on to prove that black is white, and gets killed on the next zebra crossing. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/4 "2010-04-22T07:35:37Z")
> [@Corner\_Case](#): > > Ostentatious displays of miracles aught not occur. The book (not the one referred to above) points out that the Babel Fish (a universal translator) could not possibly have developed naturally, and therefore proves the existence of God as its creator. However, as Man points out, God needs faith to exist, and this proof dispels the need for faith, therefore causing God to vanish in a puff of logic. Then Man says, “my, that was easy” and goes on to prove that black is white, and gets killed on the next zebra crossing. But it’s not that big a deal if it’s in a container that no one’s allowed to look in… ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/5 "2010-04-22T08:42:00Z")
> [@ChristVolo1](#): > > It seems that the manna only spoiled when they didn’t follow directions. This was a test to see if they would do what God said. And notice, the manna didn’t spoil when God decreed that it wouldn’t spoil. On weekdays, they were to cook it and eat it. On the day before the Sabbath, they were to cook double and save some. The manna only spoiled if they tried to store it without first cooking it. Where is the mystery? - Insect eggs don’t hatch if they’ve been cooked. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/6 "2010-04-22T10:10:31Z")
> [@Corner\_Case](#): > > Ostentatious displays of miracles aught not occur. You mean, farting a universe out of his non-material anus _wasn’t_ ostentatious? What does our Divine Creator do for party tricks then… create planets with perfect societies that reflect his wonderous glory, maybe? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/7 "2010-04-22T12:30:52Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > The manna only spoiled if they tried to store it without first cooking it. I got sick at a picnic once after eating some spoilt mannanase. ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_Simpson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3da27b/32.png) [@Jim\_Simpson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_Simpson)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/8 "2010-04-23T16:30:07Z")
There are ancient Jewish (non-biblical) texts that describe the actual machine used to “make manna”. The machine has been reproduced and it actually functions as a device that makes a very specific algae that is a complete nutritional source for humans. The algae is, separately, being made in experiments to determine it’s possible use as a food for humans on extended space flight. Without explaining all of this (from info online dating back to 2001-2), the manna machine was probably powered by the device represented by the Ark of the Covenant. It is suspected that this device (placed in the Ark) was not just dropped from the heavens, but was in fact stored in the granite sarcophagus in the kings chamber of the great pyramid, and taken out of Egypt by Moses when he left. The Ark was built to specifications of other Arks (an Egyptian tradition) that were used to carry the Egyptian “power of God” into battle, before Moses ever entered into the picture. It is now also suspected that the great pyramid was actually a machine that manufactures hydrogen, which was powered internally. Could it be the device carried in the Ark of the Covenant that powered that hydrogen manufacturing? Look at the web and get updated and if you end up not believing any of this, at least it won’t be me you don’t believe, but others with more time to research and report than I do. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/9 "2010-04-23T16:34:51Z")
> [@Jim\_Simpson](#): > > There are ancient Jewish (non-biblical) texts that describe the actual machine used to “make manna”. The machine has been reproduced and it actually functions as a device that makes a very specific algae that is a complete nutritional source for humans. The algae is, separately, being made in experiments to determine it’s possible use as a food for humans on extended space flight. Without explaining all of this (from info online dating back to 2001-2), the manna machine was probably powered by the device represented by the Ark of the Covenant. > > It is suspected that this device (placed in the Ark) was not just dropped from the heavens, but was in fact stored in the granite sarcophagus in the kings chamber of the great pyramid, and taken out of Egypt by Moses when he left. The Ark was built to specifications of other Arks (an Egyptian tradition) that were used to carry the Egyptian “power of God” into battle, before Moses ever entered into the picture. > > It is now also suspected that the great pyramid was actually a machine that manufactures hydrogen, which was powered internally. Could it be the device carried in the Ark of the Covenant that powered that hydrogen manufacturing? Look at the web and get updated and if you end up not believing any of this, at least it won’t be me you don’t believe, but others with more time to research and report than I do. Oh, please. Cite? ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/10 "2010-04-23T16:56:17Z")
Original Staff Report: [Followup: wasn’t manna placed in the Ark of the Covenant? - The Straight Dope](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1402/followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant) And also see: > **[Followup: not all manna became inedible after one day!](https://www.straightdope.com/21342546/followup-not-all-manna-became-inedible-after-one-day)** > > A STAFF REPORT FROM THE STRAIGHT DOPE SCIENCE ADVISORY BOARD [http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1404/followup](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1404/followup) ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/11 "2010-04-23T17:33:26Z")
> [@Jim\_Simpson](#): > > There are ancient Jewish (non-biblical) texts that describe the actual machine used to “make manna”. The machine has been reproduced and it actually functions as a device that makes a very specific algae that is a complete nutritional source for humans. The algae is, separately, being made in experiments to determine it’s possible use as a food for humans on extended space flight. Without explaining all of this (from info online dating back to 2001-2), the manna machine was probably powered by the device represented by the Ark of the Covenant. > > It is suspected that this device (placed in the Ark) was not just dropped from the heavens, but was in fact stored in the granite sarcophagus in the kings chamber of the great pyramid, and taken out of Egypt by Moses when he left. The Ark was built to specifications of other Arks (an Egyptian tradition) that were used to carry the Egyptian “power of God” into battle, before Moses ever entered into the picture. > > It is now also suspected that the great pyramid was actually a machine that manufactures hydrogen, which was powered internally. Could it be the device carried in the Ark of the Covenant that powered that hydrogen manufacturing? Look at the web and get updated and if you end up not believing any of this, at least it won’t be me you don’t believe, but others with more time to research and report than I do. What!? First, does this machine make manna, a specific algae, or manufacture hydrogen? No wait… it powers the great pyramid which in turn produces hydrogen. Ok? Which they used for…? Why do they need a machine to produce hydrogen anyway? I can produce it with some zinc and sulfuric acid at home. Spam? ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/12 "2010-04-23T18:36:13Z")
There are such things as algae (or they might be blue-green bacteria or something) that photosynthesise producing hydrogen as a waste product. other similarly tiny grains of truth may be interspersed throughout post #8, but it’s mostly wibble. ---
**Author:** ![Cyningablod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc29f/32.png) [@Cyningablod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyningablod)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/13 "2010-04-24T01:41:04Z")
Jim Simpson is pulling our legs. Has to be. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/14 "2010-04-24T01:55:22Z")
> [@Jim\_Simpson](#): > > There are ancient Jewish (non-biblical) texts that describe the actual machine used to “make manna”. The machine has been reproduced and it actually functions as a device that makes a very specific algae that is a complete nutritional source for humans. The algae is, separately, being made in experiments to determine it’s possible use as a food for humans on extended space flight. Without explaining all of this (from info online dating back to 2001-2), the manna machine was probably powered by the device represented by the Ark of the Covenant. > > It is suspected that this device (placed in the Ark) was not just dropped from the heavens, but was in fact stored in the granite sarcophagus in the kings chamber of the great pyramid, and taken out of Egypt by Moses when he left. The Ark was built to specifications of other Arks (an Egyptian tradition) that were used to carry the Egyptian “power of God” into battle, before Moses ever entered into the picture. > > It is now also suspected that the great pyramid was actually a machine that manufactures hydrogen, which was powered internally. Could it be the device carried in the Ark of the Covenant that powered that hydrogen manufacturing? Look at the web and get updated and if you end up not believing any of this, at least it won’t be me you don’t believe, but others with more time to research and report than I do. I’m sure Daniel Jackson and Colonel O’Neill will recover this ancient technology before it’s seized by the Go’a’uld. ---
**Author:** ![TSBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@TSBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TSBG)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/15 "2010-04-24T05:14:29Z")
Come on, guys. The info is online, and dates back to 2002 or maybe even 2001… Goodness gracious. Someone once remarked that the pyramids were more ancient for Herodotus than Herodotus is for us. Not sure why I’m reminded of this now. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/16 "2010-04-24T07:00:22Z")
The pyramids were built upside down anyway. They were meant to be giant funnels. ---
**Author:** ![Meme\_Chose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2acd7d/32.png) [@Meme\_Chose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meme_Chose)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/17 "2010-04-24T16:16:45Z")
> [@Sparky812](#): > > Why do they need a machine to produce hydrogen anyway? Obviously, to fill up the enormous papyrus balloons attached to the top of the pyramids. Et voila, flying pyramids! The pyramids were filled with yetis, sasquatches, chupacabras and various lake monsters, and flown around the world and deposited in geographically diverse areas to test their ability to survive. The floating pyramids became the inspiration for the Nazca lines and the numerous examples of UFOs in art for centuries. ---
**Author:** ![MeDrewNotYou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@MeDrewNotYou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeDrewNotYou)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/18 "2010-04-25T01:25:15Z")
> [@Meme\_Chose](#): > > Obviously, to fill up the enormous papyrus balloons attached to the top of the pyramids. Et voila, flying pyramids! The pyramids were filled with yetis, sasquatches, chupacabras and various lake monsters, and flown around the world and deposited in geographically diverse areas to test their ability to survive. The floating pyramids became the inspiration for the Nazca lines and the numerous examples of UFOs in art for centuries. I find your theories intriguing and would like to subscribe to your newsletter. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/19 "2010-04-25T01:29:14Z")
> [@Meme\_Chose](#): > > Obviously, to fill up the enormous papyrus balloons attached to the top of the pyramids. Et voila, flying pyramids! The pyramids were filled with yetis, sasquatches, chupacabras and various lake monsters, and flown around the world and deposited in geographically diverse areas to test their ability to survive. The floating pyramids became the inspiration for the Nazca lines and the numerous examples of UFOs in art for centuries. You forgot to mention the Secret Nazi Frogmen. ---
**Author:** ![Meme\_Chose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2acd7d/32.png) [@Meme\_Chose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meme_Chose)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/20 "2010-04-25T06:52:15Z")
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