# Hello, this is a response to "Followup: wasn't manna placed in the Ark of the Covenant?" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cecil's Columns/Staff Reports\ **Created:** [April 21, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903 "2010-04-21T18:51:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/21 "2010-04-25T10:11:04Z")
> [@Meme\_Chose](#): > > I have been SUCH a fool! You…you..you dupe of the Secret Nazi Frogmen, you! \ ;)😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bootis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@Bootis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootis)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/22 "2010-04-26T03:48:32Z")
I’ve long head the rumor that the eye in the floating pyramid on the back of a dollar bill belongs to a sasquatch, but never believed it, because it seems to have a well groomed eyebrow, and mostly because, even a sasquatch’s peering eye looking out of a floating pyramid would be much smaller relative to the pyramid. however I never considered that the floating pyramid was filled with other creatures besides sasquatches, which possibly explains the mysterious eye, and why it is so large. It isn’t a stretch to assume that one of those pyramid beasts **Meme Chose** mentioned was an enormous cyclops? ---
**Author:** ![MeDrewNotYou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@MeDrewNotYou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeDrewNotYou)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/23 "2010-04-26T08:24:46Z")
> [@Bootis](#): > > I’ve long head the rumor that the eye in the floating pyramid on the back of a dollar bill belongs to a sasquatch, but never believed it, because it seems to have a well groomed eyebrow, and mostly because, even a sasquatch’s peering eye looking out of a floating pyramid would be much smaller relative to the pyramid. however I never considered that the floating pyramid was filled with other creatures besides sasquatches, which possibly explains the mysterious eye, and why it is so large. It isn’t a stretch to assume that one of those pyramid beasts **Meme Chose** mentioned was an enormous cyclops? It could be a cyclops, but… Giant eye… Giant eye… Where have I seen that before… OMG! The pyramid contains Sauron! Why else would our coins be round? **Round like a ring!** The Lord of Barad-Dur runs America! ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/24 "2010-04-26T20:45:59Z")
1st, JillGat’s link is goofy. Original article: [What happened to the Ark of the Covenant?](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1401/what-happened-to-the-ark-of-the-covenan) Which spawned 3 followups linked by JillGat. > [@](#): > > Also, as a side comment about the Ark of the Covenant vs. Noah’s Ark… Yes, we definitely don’t want to get confused between Noah’s Trunk and The Boat of the Covenant. 😉 **Corner Case** said: > [@](#): > > However, as Man points out, God needs faith to exist, … Someone might quibble here. But typically Christians accept that premise, so carry on. **Jim Simpson** said: > [@](#): > > There are ancient Jewish (non-biblical) texts that describe the actual machine used to “make manna”. Cite? > [@](#): > > The machine has been reproduced and it actually functions as a device that makes a very specific algae that is a complete nutritional source for humans. Cite? > [@](#): > > The algae is, separately, being made in experiments to determine it’s possible use as a food for humans on extended space flight. Cite? > [@](#): > > Without explaining all of this (from info online dating back to 2001-2), the manna machine was probably powered by the device represented by the Ark of the Covenant. Cite that the Ark of the Covenant generated power? > [@](#): > > It is suspected that this device (placed in the Ark) was not just dropped from the heavens, but was in fact stored in the granite sarcophagus in the kings chamber of the great pyramid, and taken out of Egypt by Moses when he left. Interesting proposal, assuming there was a device. Certainly it is thought that Moses got his monotheism idea from an Egyptian cult. Cite for the device being built by the Egyptians? > [@](#): > > The Ark was built to specifications of other Arks (an Egyptian tradition) that were used to carry the Egyptian “power of God” into battle, before Moses ever entered into the picture. Cite? > [@](#): > > It is now also suspected that the great pyramid was actually a machine that manufactures hydrogen, which was powered internally. Suspected by whom? Archeologists? Transcendental Meditationists? Some kooks on the internet who huff paint? > [@](#): > > Could it be the device carried in the Ark of the Covenant that powered that hydrogen manufacturing? Could it be that the Ark was really used to carry pixie dust mined from deep in the mines of Mordor? > [@](#): > > Look at the web and get updated and if you end up not believing any of this, at least it won’t be me you don’t believe, but others with more time to research and report than I do. “Somewhere on the internet” is _not_ a proper citation. It is your claim, you provide us with links to the page/pages that support the assertions you are making. **Cyningablod** said: > [@](#): > > Jim Simpson is pulling our legs. > > Has to be. Why? Because it is so ridiculously stupid that it can’t be true? Ever read Erich von Danniken, or Zachariah Sitchin? Ever heard of homeopathy? This is the internet. I could propose that clouds are really marshmallows that haven’t falled to Earth yet and somebody would believe me. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/25 "2010-04-26T21:26:56Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > Cite? > **[Fingerprints of the Gods](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fingerprints_of_the_Gods)** > > Fingerprints of the Gods: The Evidence of Earth's Lost Civilization is a 1995 pseudoarchaeology book by British writer Graham Hancock. Hancock claims that an advanced civilization lived on Antarctica during the last ice age before the continent shifted south to its current position. He argues that survivors carried their knowledge to cultures around the world, which he says produced the earliest known civilizations. The book promotes a form of hyperdiffusionism that draws heavily on the wor Ha... > **[Chariots of the Gods?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chariots_of_the_Gods%3F)** > > Chariots of the Gods? Unsolved Mysteries of the Past (German: Erinnerungen an die Zukunft: Ungelöste Rätsel der Vergangenheit, lit. 'Memories of the Future: Unsolved Mysteries of the Past') is a book written in 1968 by Erich von Däniken and translated from the original German by Michael Heron. It involves the hypothesis that the technologies and religions of many ancient civilizations were given to them by ancient astronauts who were welcomed as gods. > The first draft of the publication had bee... These types of tales aren’t new. ---
**Author:** ![Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/regallag_the_axe/32/445_2.png) [@Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Regallag_The_Axe)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/26 "2010-04-26T23:19:36Z")
I caught part of a ‘documentary’ on the History Chanel the other day where ‘experts’ were claiming that the Ark of the Covenant contained a tiny nuclear reactor used to power the mana machine. Funny stuff. > [@Irishman](#): > > I could propose that clouds are really marshmallows that haven’t falled to Earth yet and somebody would believe me. They haven’t fallen yet because they’ve been confused by the Illuminati, and they now think that they can fly. ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/27 "2010-04-28T14:30:21Z")
> [@Regallag\_The\_Axe](#): > > I caught part of a ‘documentary’ on the History Chanel the other day where ‘experts’ were claiming that the Ark of the Covenant contained a tiny nuclear reactor used to power the mana machine. Funny stuff. If, by the other day, you mean April 1st, then I get it!😃 Wasn’t there one acouple of years ago about the Earth actually being flat? ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/28 "2010-04-28T20:27:27Z")
**mlees** , which comment was that in response to? I mean, I only said “Cite?” four times in that post (plus a couple others with other words included). Doesn’t matter. I’m aware these kinds of claims have been made before - I referred to two proponents in my own post. The point wasn’t to see that some nutjob somewhere actually said those things, the point was to \*evaluate the merits \*of the source. Wiki pages on discredited notions does not do much to support the statements made here. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/29 "2010-04-30T15:58:01Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > **mlees** , which comment was that in response to? I mean, I only said “Cite?” four times in that post (plus a couple others with other words included). > > Doesn’t matter. I’m aware these kinds of claims have been made before - I referred to two proponents in my own post. The point wasn’t to see that some nutjob somewhere actually said those things, the point was to \*evaluate the merits \*of the source. Wiki pages on discredited notions does not do much to support the statements made here. Sorry. You are correct in that my links do not support the claims made by **Jim Simpson**. For some reason, my attention and focus narrowed down to this statement (and only this statement) by you: > [@Irishman](#): > > “Somewhere on the internet” is not a proper citation. It is your claim, you provide us with links to the page/pages that support the assertions you are making. There are several authors who suggest the posibilty of old cultures possessed various “knowledge” from even more ancient cultures. For example, the ability of the megalith builders to move blocks of stone a hundred tons or more (something that would still be a challenge today). My personal favorite is a geologist who claims that there appears to be weathering patterns on the Great Sphynx that suggests it may have been carved in a much older time period than is generally accepted today. (See “Water Erosion Debate” on the wiki entry for the Sphynx.) My purpose in providing links was not to furnish unchallengable proof of any kind, but to suggest potential parrallels to the uncited suggestions made my **Jim Simpson**. In other words, it’s non-mainstream authors like Graham Hancock or Erich von Daniken that could be potential sources of the [his] assertions. I apologise for “butting in” on your discussion with **Jim Simpson**. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/30 "2010-04-30T16:06:11Z")
Further explaination: Folks who believe that the Ark of the Covenant may have had some (non-divine) power source within it usually are attracted to the type of material I was referring to in my post above. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2010, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903/31 "2010-05-03T15:47:07Z")
**mlees** said: > [@](#): > > For some reason, my attention and focus narrowed down to this statement (and only this statement) by you: > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by Irishman > > “Somewhere on the internet” is not a proper citation. It is your claim, you provide us with links to the page/pages that support the assertions you are making. > > There are several authors who suggest the posibilty of old cultures possessed various “knowledge” from even more ancient cultures. For example, the ability of the megalith builders to move blocks of stone a hundred tons or more (something that would still be a challenge today). Yes, I am aware that there are numerous sources for these various ideas. My point was that **Jim Simpson** is making a claim, it is not for me to _assume_ his source, it is for him to show me his source. I can’t evaluate the evidence for his claim if I don’t know which evidence he is using. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-this-is-a-response-to-followup-wasnt-manna-placed-in-the-ark-of-the-covenant/536903.md?page=1)