# Hello Universe? Can we get some better Trump defenders on this board? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 31, 2019, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663 "2019-12-31T13:08:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2020, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663/601 "2020-01-30T20:34:48Z")
If you don’t have adequate turnp supporters in DC, how are you going to get one here? If there was one, how would they defend dt over time as dts lawyers change their defense of him? And these guys can get in a room and talk to him. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2020, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663/602 "2020-01-31T02:58:41Z")
Nobody talks to djt. They talk at him. That’s because he never listens. ---
**Author:** ![Personal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Personal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Personal)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2020, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663/603 "2020-01-31T03:14:48Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Nobody talks to djt. They talk at him. That’s because he never listens. This board is rife with people who talk but don’t listen. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2020, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663/604 "2020-01-31T03:30:18Z")
> [@Personal](#): > > This board is rife with people who talk but don’t listen. Huh? What did you say? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2020, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663/605 "2020-01-31T04:02:23Z")
He said he’s met **Shodan**. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2020, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663/606 "2020-01-31T04:35:01Z")
The real reason people support Trump is mostly due to tribalism. You can’t form rational arguments around tribalism, since tribalism is more something that we do for survival reasons, so the logical arguments tend to be pretty shitty. I guess some libertarians may like Trump since he cut taxes for the rich. But he raised taxes for everyone else (his tax cuts eventually result in tax hikes for everyone who isn’t rich), his tariffs increased costs, he is authoritarian and hates democracy, his trade wars, etc. So even libertarians don’t have a lot of reasons to support him. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2020, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663/607 "2020-01-31T14:05:32Z")
_This_ libertarian wants him to rot in prison for a long, long, time. The [Cato Institute](https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/no-libertarians-have-not-thrown-trump) and [Reason magazine](https://reason.com/tag/donald-trump/) are not fond of him, either. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663.md?page=30)