# Hello Universe? Can we get some better Trump defenders on this board? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 31, 2019, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663 "2019-12-31T13:08:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2020, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663/161 "2020-01-02T18:12:55Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > I don’t think the impeachment is inevitable. I don’t know how to break it to you or other Republicans, but the impeachment is as inevitable as anything that already happened. Trump was impeached. What we’re talking about is the sentencing phase. ---
**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2020, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663/162 "2020-01-02T18:15:38Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > I don’t know how to break it to you or other Republicans, but the impeachment is as inevitable as anything that already happened. Trump was impeached. What we’re talking about is the sentencing phase. Impeachment is a charge, a trial follows and once conviction is secured sentencing follows. ---
**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2020, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663/163 "2020-01-02T18:17:37Z")
> [@margin](#): > > Trump used the might and power of the office of the President of the United States to withhold military funding and weapons from a small nation being occupied by the forces of his great pal, Vladimir Putin. (If your standard of guilt for Repubs requires crystal clear confessions it’s a striking change from the way you guys treat Republican false accusations against Dems.) Hanging over the conversation was Putin, whose enemies and critics have a marked tendency to suddenly drop dead. > > And now, after Trump abandoned the Kurds to be slaughtered, what form would such threats take? > > Eleven people died while Trump jerked Zelensky around. > > Why is that not bad enough? Eleven people died while Trump jerked Zelensky around? How many died in Chicago, a single state in the USA during that period? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2020, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663/164 "2020-01-02T18:17:59Z")
> [@EasyPhil](#): > > Impeachment is a charge, a trial follows and once conviction is secured sentencing follows. He was impeached, correct? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663/165 "2020-01-02T18:19:54Z")
> [@EasyPhil](#): > > Eleven people died while Trump jerked Zelensky around? How many died in Chicago, a single state in the USA during that period? Still not a Trump supporter, I see. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663/166 "2020-01-02T18:19:54Z")
> [@crywalt](#): > > I’m just here to say that this is hilarious. The whole thread is hilarious. [What, do I amuse you? How am I funny? Am I funny like a clown?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfcy15ZUE2c) ---
**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663/167 "2020-01-02T18:20:39Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > He was impeached, correct? Yeah, he was…His approval has also gone up, funny how that works. ---
**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663/168 "2020-01-02T18:22:02Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Still not a Trump supporter, I see. > :rolleyes: Nothing has changed in that department…You keep on chasing Trump ghosts around any corner, okay? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2020, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663/169 "2020-01-02T18:26:25Z")
> [@margin](#): > > No reason to delay? Aside from the fact that he ranted and screamed and sobbed and blatantly lied to Congress, who paid off hundreds of thousands of dollars of debts for him? This statement is unclear - are you asserting that Congress paid off hundreds of thousands of dollars of debts for Kavanaugh? > [@](#): > > You lying shitweasel. Mitch McConnell REFUSED to even hold hearings for any of Obama’s nominees. I suspect Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan would not agree with what you mention above. > [@](#): > > And fuck you, I fought for this country once, and I’ll be fucked if I back down before a bunch of ranty geriatrics, Stolen Valor poseurs, basement incels and bleached blonde Cool Girls who can’t compete on the basis of brains. [Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the German’s bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! And it ain’t over now!](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=German%27s%20bombed%20Pearl%20Harbor) Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![crywalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crywalt/32/3224_2.png) [@crywalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crywalt)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2020, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663/170 "2020-01-02T18:41:15Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > [What, do I amuse you? How am I funny? Am I funny like a clown?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfcy15ZUE2c) Please do not beat me up or whatever Joe Pesci did in the movie which I don’t quite remember. Could I watch the video? I certainly could! Anyway, what’s hilarious is a) that there might be better arguments for Trumpism and b) watching people make fun of Trumpists. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2020, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663/171 "2020-01-02T19:14:00Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > How did he violate the constitution again in a way that previous unimpeached presidents have not? Please explain how he has so clearly violated the constitution that Republican politicians are duty bound to vote against their own party? [Trump impeachment: A very simple guide](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39945744) The US constitution states a president “shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes or misdemeanours”. A rough transcript of the call revealed that Mr Trump had urged President Zelensky to investigate discredited allegations against Joe and Hunter Biden. The call came shortly after Mr Trump had blocked the release of millions of dollars in US military aid to Ukraine. A senior official later testified that the president made clear the release of the aid was conditional on Mr Biden being investigated, but the White House denies this. In a series of public hearings, a procession of US officials have testified that there was a White House shadow foreign policy led by the president’s personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani. Its aim was to get Ukraine to open an investigation into the Bidens and declare as much publicly. * * * Strong-arming a foreign country to investigate a political rival sounds pretty heinous, don’t you think? Every past president that supported sanctions or withheld aid did so to oppose countries that violate human rights, not to gain leverage for his own personal gains. Never mind Trump’s intentions. He’s clearly ignorant of the law and the Constitution (except for the part about guns) and should be fired for utter incompetence. Oh that’s right, you only see “liberal echo chamber.” ---
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2020, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663/172 "2020-01-02T19:26:26Z")
> [@EasyPhil](#): > > Eleven people died while Trump jerked Zelensky around? How many died in Chicago, a single state in the USA during that period? Did your fontanel ever close? ---
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2020, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663/173 "2020-01-02T19:30:04Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > This statement is unclear - are you asserting that Congress paid off hundreds of thousands of dollars of debts for Kavanaugh? > I suspect Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan would not agree with what you mention above. > [Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the German’s bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! And it ain’t over now!](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=German%27s%20bombed%20Pearl%20Harbor) > > Regards, > Shodan Fuck off and stop jerking around, asshole. I see you are once again being an asshole about my service. You compared me to a notoriously ignorant fictional character. So much for that fake apology of yours, eh? ---
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2020, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663/174 "2020-01-02T19:40:26Z")
Fuck it, I ain’t editing. [McConnell bragging about he stole vacant judicial sears from Obama. .](https://www.theroot.com/mitch-mcconnell-is-a-not-so-silent-but-deadly-old-far-1840415305) Shodan will now, of course, pretend to be confused and ask, “But whatever could you possibly mean?” This shit----from a guy several decades past adolescent edgelorditude----is why I despise conservatives. I hope each and every one of them finds themselves experiencing all the treatment they wished on others as evinced by the scummy politicians they defend. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2020, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663/175 "2020-01-02T19:44:02Z")
> [@margin](#): > > That’s funny. How come that’s not the standard you guys apply to Hillary? Or Obama? Or whatever Dem Trump and his fans are calling traitors these days----for not applauding him? Or for quoting him verbatim? Not to mention his charming attacks on the truth, sixteen-year-old girls, POWs, dead men, and pregnant Gold Star widows, of course. > > This is why people call Repubs disingenuous. > > No reason to delay? Aside from the fact that he ranted and screamed and sobbed and blatantly lied to Congress, who paid off hundreds of thousands of dollars of debts for him? > > Let’s face it, NO proof would change a Republican mind. You will not read anything that’s not from one of your fever swamp paranoid hate sites, bit that doesn’t stop Repubs from demanding proof. > > And it"s terribly odd aside from that, because when you guys are faced with innocent Dems, you just make shit up, like Qanon, Pizzagate, Benghazi-gate, Uranium One…James O’Keefe’s entire career consists of deceitfully editing videos till their subjects appear to be saying exactly the opposite of what they actually said. “LOCK HET UP!” Lying so far that reality becomes inverted is how Republicans cope with their disgusting beliefs. > > [The FBI was ordered to limit the investigation into Kavanaugh.](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/05/us/politics/trump-kavanaugh-fbi.html) There’s a big difference between “never heard again” and _was willfully suppressed._ Is that a personal problem or a tactical decision, because it resembles a lot of Repub lies? It’s practically a different language. “Background checks”, for example, when run through the GOP translation section of the GOP ‘brain’, comes out as, “OMAGAWD MARTHA THE JACKBOOTED THUGS AND THAT KENYAN MUSLIM DUDE ARE GOING TO TAKE OUR GUNS!” > > [If the tables were turned, and Kavanaugh were liberal… Oh. Wait. That’s right. Dems boot out their pussygrabbers; the GOP elects theirs.](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/14/sunday-review/brett-kavanaugh-deborah-ramirez-yale.html) > > All his judges are Reichwing nutjobs. They are anti choice, anti LGBTQ rights, pro-Trump----which alone says they’re not fit to be dogcatchers----and have to be crazed Rightwing loyalists. > > [Um, no.](https://www.factcheck.org/2019/11/trumps-exaggerated-judicial-boasts/) > > You lying shitweasel. Mitch McConnell REFUSED to even hold hearings for any of Obama’s nominees. Not are you a lying scumsucker, you are actually blaming the recipient of your party’s abuse. This is added on top of the fact that Republicans are devoted to stripping Dems off voter rolls, gerrymandering Dems out of existence, and getting any and all foreign help they can is vile. > > We already know why Trump won, and it’s because of lying assholes like you. And fuck you, I fought for this country once, and I’ll be fucked if I back down before a bunch of ranty geriatrics, Stolen Valor poseurs, basement incels and bleached blonde Cool Girls who can’t compete on the basis of brains. This was a wonderful rant. Also, fuck Shodan. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2020, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663/176 "2020-01-02T19:49:29Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > He was impeached, correct? > [@EasyPhil](#): > > Yeah, he was…His approval has also gone up, funny how that works. Funny, indeed, [given how his average approval rating has been on the decline since 17 December](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/). ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2020, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663/177 "2020-01-02T19:53:02Z")
> [@margin](#): > > Conservative judge appointments? You mean unqualified nutjobs who hate women, POC, and LGBTQ, to judge by their comments? Judges who’ve never tried a case? “A call for more transparency in medical billing”? We needed to elect this monumental asshole for that?! It’s just another idiotic promise like, “build that wall!” Arms sales to US allies----you mean, only if they slander his rivals? Reduction in taxes-----if you’re rich. More oil drilling without regulation at huge cost to the environment, you mean? Increased defense spending----like when he stole money from military bases for his stupid wall? And do you call it “confrontation” when Trump starts an absolutely idiotic tariff war that hurts American farms and businesses? > > You are a walking syphilis lesion with pretenses of humanity. Michelle Bachmann looks warm and kind and actually sensible next to you, where most of the time she looks like her human skin suit zipper itches because her hubby’s taking a little longer than usual seasoning her rat snacks, thanks to that extra xanax. Well, OP answered. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663/178 "2020-01-02T19:59:48Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Funny, indeed, [given how his average approval rating has been on the decline since 17 December](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/). \*\*slEasyPhil \*\*is impervious to information from anything but right-wing propaganda sources and Russian troll farms. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2020, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663/179 "2020-01-02T20:01:58Z")
> [@cmkeller](#): > > Well, OP answered. This is why we can never make new friends. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2020, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663/180 "2020-01-02T20:12:50Z")
> [@margin](#): > > Fuck it, I ain’t editing. > > [McConnell bragging about he stole vacant judicial sears from Obama. .](https://www.theroot.com/mitch-mcconnell-is-a-not-so-silent-but-deadly-old-far-1840415305) > > Shodan will now, of course, pretend to be confused and ask, “But whatever could you possibly mean?” Oh, I am not confused about that part - you followed up an accusation of someone else being a lying shitweasel by telling a direct and easily disprovable lie. The other part, where you apparently claimed that Congress paid hundreds of thousands of dollars of Kavanaugh’s debts, is the only part that remains unclear. I can’t believe that even you think this is what happened, so I assumed you merely mistyped. Of course if you have a cite that shows that this actually happened, that would be a different matter, but you don’t, so it isn’t. > [@](#): > > You compared me to a notoriously ignorant fictional character. I am glad to see that you were able to understand the point of the quote. > [@](#): > > This shit----from a guy several decades past adolescent edgelorditude----is why I despise conservatives. Hm. > [@](#): > > You are a walking syphilis lesion with pretenses of humanity. > [@](#): > > you lying self indulgent selfish shit stain. > [@](#): > > lying assholes like you > [@](#): > > fuck you > [@](#): > > Fuck off No doubt I’m older than you, but I don’t think that helps. Regards, Shodan [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-universe-can-we-get-some-better-trump-defenders-on-this-board/845663.md?page=10)