# Hello.  Why I hate George Bush.

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**Created:** [October 27, 2001, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-why-i-hate-george-bush/89885 "2001-10-27T00:06:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2001, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-why-i-hate-george-bush/89885/21 "2001-10-27T03:27:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Yue Han \*  
> \*\* I can easily imagine a worse President. Hitler, for instance, would be a worse president. So would David Duke. Osama Bin Ladin would make a rotten president. Space aliens who want eat our heads.
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> If you want this to stay a debate (and I agree it has potential to be a good one) you should ratchet down the hyperbole.
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Seems you are the one with the hyperbole problem, Yue. Myself, I cannot \* imagine \* Hitler, or Osama or David Duke, or space aliens that eat our heads becoming president. I’m just unimaginative that way.

Just because George isn’t \*\* your \*\* idea of the worst possible president, doesn’t mean it is not possible for him to be anyone else’s.

Can you come up with an example of someone you find so much worse that could actually be elected in the 21st century? The only counter examples offered the last time this came up were Hitler and Osama. Hell, if that’s the \* only \* examples of someone worse than Bush that anyone can manage to come up with, it kinda lends validity to our position, ya know?

stoid

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2001, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-why-i-hate-george-bush/89885/22 "2001-10-27T03:34:07Z")

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The spinning in here has me so dizzy I think I’m gonna pass out…

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**Author:** ![El\_Zagna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d2c977/32.png) [@El\_Zagna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Zagna)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2001, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-why-i-hate-george-bush/89885/23 "2001-10-27T03:35:47Z")

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Hate is a pretty strong word which, in my opinion, should be reserved for only the most scurrilous of beings. As Tiberius451 and others suggested, your reasons for hating this man seem awfully weak.

Your OP is really more of a rant than a GD, but I would like to tweak it a bit in hopes of making it a debatable issue by asking this: Do you think it serves the best interest of this country for so many people to hate the President, whoever it may be at the time? It’s one thing to disagree - and disagree strongly - with someone’s policies or philosophies but I am troubled by the kind of burning, bug-eyed hatred that I see from so many people towards the President.

In fact the basic attitude now seems to extend to any elected official. It is as though once a person is in an elected office, the basic rules of civility and etiquette no longer hold. I see this happening all the way down to people serving on small town school boards and city councils.

Why so much hatred?

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**Author:** ![Yue\_Han](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/eada6e/32.png) [@Yue\_Han](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yue_Han)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2001, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-why-i-hate-george-bush/89885/24 "2001-10-27T04:12:23Z")

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Stoid.

You can’t imagine someone like Hitler being elected President? What, we’re so superior to those stupid Germans that under the right circumstances we might not elect someone who would then unconstitutionally take power with public acclaim?

Of course, since I said that those examples were silly, you’re obviously just misrepresenting me to try and justify your statement, which was ridiculous. You didn’t say, Bush is the worst president who could have been elected. Themoon said, “It’s hard to imagine a worse president than Bush,” and you agreed.

In the portion of my post that you dishonestly snipped, I pointed out that we have HAD a worse president than Bush, in corrupt genocidal maniac Andrew Jackson. And I pointed out several things Bush has not done that a President might do even today to make him a terrible president.

At any rate, following a scene in the Pit where I overreacted to Nacho4Sara, I am adopting a new policy:

I try to be very tolerant on the board in general, but condescension bothers me a lot, as does editing and/or presenting my statement in a way that makes it look like I am saying something radically different.

From now on, if someone misrepresents me, quotes me sans context in order to justify that dishonesty, and then talks down to me about, I am simply going to cease any argument or debate with that person. Otherwise I lose my temper and say things I regret later. I will just walk away. Starting now.

Goodbye.

–John

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**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2001, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-why-i-hate-george-bush/89885/25 "2001-10-27T04:15:59Z")

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Still waiting for that cite where the President slandered Mr. Gore. You see, slander has a specific legal definition, and is actionable in a court of law.

Where did the President slander Mr. Gore?

Sidenote: 6 posts, sock or troll, you decide!

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2001, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-why-i-hate-george-bush/89885/26 "2001-10-27T04:20:34Z")

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Yue Han wrote:

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> Stoid.
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> You can’t imagine someone like Hitler being elected President? What, we’re so superior to those stupid Germans that under the right circumstances we might not elect someone who would then unconstitutionally take power with public acclaim?

No no no! He said he can’t imagine Hitler being elected **President**. You see, Hitler wasn’t elected _president_ of Germany, he was elected _chancellor_ of Germany, and as we all know those two positions aren’t at **all** anything like one another, no no no no. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![HairyPotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3ab097/32.png) [@HairyPotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HairyPotter)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2001, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-why-i-hate-george-bush/89885/27 "2001-10-27T04:23:17Z")

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Excellent OP, themoon. George and his handlers/sponsors are gleefully providing great opportunities for ruthless entrepreneurs through the old tricks of firing up public fear and patriotism…and we thought the “end of the Cold War” had dried up opportunities for opponents of civil liberties and proponents of military spending.

Welcome to SD. Your courage in articulating contrarian views should stimulate lots of interesting debates in GD.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2001, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-why-i-hate-george-bush/89885/28 "2001-10-27T04:40:41Z")

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Can’t hate him, simply can’t. Can hate OBL (may he simmer in bacon fat). No problem, he foments hate and murder in the name of God, if there is no other definition for vile blasphemy, that will suffice. Can hate Milosevic, for much the same reasons. Stalin, Hitler, Nixon, all leave slime trails through our world. Not GWB. Not enough _there_ there, to rift on Gertie Stein.

I am pretty much his age, went to college about the same time. We all know what the issue of the day was, no need to review it. It tore at young minds and consciences.

And there were “frat rats”. Young men of breezy privilege and indifference, who simply did not concern themselves. While Clinton and Gore wrestled with thier consciences and made decisions, possibly right, possibly not, George did not. He didn’t have to. I remember seeing his ilk at my own place and time, and reacting with confusion rather than any intense dislike. How could they not be involved? How was it possible not to care?

As to Governor of Texas being a indication of governmental experience, that is hilarious, it is a chestnut. The Constitution of the State of Texas was designed by men with a fundamental distrust of government, as it oftimes interfered with bidness. Beyond an utterly draconion criminal “justice” system, Texas has always been a state of lacadaisical anarchy. The Governor is endowed with the power to declare a given month to be Pecan Festival Month. And thats about it. Oh, yeah, and sign death warrants. Anyone who can state with sincerity that they believe that no innocent person has been executed in Texas has no more probity than a bowl of mashed potatoes. Or doesn’t care. Because he doesn’t have to.

Do you rembember when he first burst into the scene? As the Republicans cast about helplessly for somebody to run for President, somebody to remove the memory of the shellacking they had recieved at the hand of Slick Willy. Remember when the name George W. Bush first came out, you said “Who?” and two days later he was the front-runner, with money pouring out of the sky into his coffers? Chance Gardener, as I live and breathe.

And now I am expected to believe that a crisis somehow will lift a man up and enoble him, take a mediocre man and suddenly make him a leader of men. Romantic hogwash! Lincoln was a man enobled by crisis, but he was a deep and thoughtful man to begin with. GWB is neither.

For all of that, there remains one incontrovertible fact: we are stuck with him. Period. We are headed into a time I truly fear will be a dreadful one for us, and, like it or not, we will have to find a way to pull together. Perhaps the rationalization that we support the President and not the man will suffice, I can’t come up with a better one. God help us, he is Our Leader. But I can’t hate him, any more than I could hate Reagan.

Pray for Colin Powell.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2001, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-why-i-hate-george-bush/89885/29 "2001-10-27T04:42:16Z")

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> Names of persons, or of companies. Then maybe we can debate them.

Well, gee. Maybe if Cheney had told Congress who they were when he was asked, we _could_ name them.

- ::: d & r ::: \*

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2001, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-why-i-hate-george-bush/89885/30 "2001-10-27T05:00:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Stoid \*  
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> Seems you are the one with the hyperbole problem, Yue. Myself, I cannot \* imagine \* Hitler, or Osama or David Duke, or space aliens that eat our heads becoming president. I’m just unimaginative that way.  
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David Duke was elected to office, so surely a person can IMAGINE him being President. What about Pat Buchanan? Jesse Jackson? Pat Robertson? Jerry Falwell? Geez, how about Richard Nixon? Are you really so massive a bigot that you can’t imagine a worse President than a guy who’s barely even had time to do anything, and who you at least must admit hasn’t totally screwed up a very difficult situation? Do you really mean Bush is a worse President than Pat Buchanan would be? You can’t be THAT close minded, can you?

I bet I could name half a dozen people who HAVE held the office who were worse. Andrew Jackson has already been cited, but Franklin Pierce and James Buchanan certainly were no great prizes. Nixon resigned in disgrace. Chester A. Arthur became President by accident and was a corrupt doofus. Harding was as crooked as a broken stick. How is Bush worse than those clowns?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2001, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-why-i-hate-george-bush/89885/31 "2001-10-27T05:16:32Z")

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They’re all dead.

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2001, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-why-i-hate-george-bush/89885/32 "2001-10-27T05:26:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Yue Han \*  
> \*\* From now on, if someone misrepresents me, quotes me sans context in order to justify that dishonesty, and then talks down to me about, I am simply going to cease any argument or debate with that person. Otherwise I lose my temper and say things I regret later. I will just walk away. Starting now.  
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An excellent choice I respect wholoeheartedly, as it is my own preferred method.

If you should care to re-engage, I will clarify for you what my choices were actually about. If not, fair enough.

stoid

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2001, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-why-i-hate-george-bush/89885/33 "2001-10-27T05:48:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by RickJay \*  
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> David Duke was elected to office, so surely a person can IMAGINE him being President. What about Pat Buchanan? Jesse Jackson? Pat Robertson? Jerry Falwell? \*\*

Why do people keep insisting that I must be able to imagine things I have already stated I cannot? (Of course, I can imagine anything in the sense of having an imaginary friend, but that wasn’t the way I understood themoon to be using the word, and I doubt many other people did either.) Maybe YOU can imagine David Duke \*\* being elected president \*\*, or Pat or Jerry or Jesse… \* I cannot. \* In the case of Duke, it hardly follows that in achieving \*\* an \*\* elected office he can now be assumed to be able to acheive \*\* any \*\* elected office.

Frankly, my imagination (or is it my wishful nature?) is so very limited that I am still dazed and reeling the GWB \* himself \* is actually occupying the Oval Office, because when I first became aware of him, I found the idea perfectly ridiculous and completely unimaginable.

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> \*Originally posted by \* \*\*  
> Are you really so massive a bigot/ You can’t be THAT close minded, can you?  
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Are you even capable of disagreeing with me without being insulting? Do you feel this enhances your argument? Because it doesn’t. If it has any effect at all, it would be to make your argument look weak, that you feel it needs a few personal slams to prop it up.

It would be so refreshing if you (and assorted others) tried debating just what I say, without making rude and insulting remarks about who you think I am. (Hint: “that is a bigoted view” OK, “You are a bigot” - not ok. “That is a stupid remark” ok, “You are a moron” not ok)

Thanks so much,

stoid

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**Author:** ![Kalt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Kalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalt)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2001, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-why-i-hate-george-bush/89885/34 "2001-10-27T05:53:11Z")

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Sounds like another poor, minimum-wage earning democrat pissed off at everyone who has more money and material things than themselves.

There will always be people who have more - some who worked hard for it, and some who didn’t. No reason to hate either. It’s just sour grapes, nothing more. This entire OP sounds like old-fashioned sour grapes.

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**Author:** ![themoon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9dc877/32.png) [@themoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/themoon)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2001, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-why-i-hate-george-bush/89885/35 "2001-10-27T05:55:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tiberius451 \*  
> **Hmmm…Interesting that you would say all these things. I hope you don’t mind if I reply to a few of them. I don’t claim to be well educated or to be up with the current political trends, but maybe you will suffer through my thoughts anyway.**

That’s what attracted me to this board. There seems to be a great energy here, lots of interesting discussions that (mostly) don’t degenerate into name-calling.

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> themoon\>  
> _There are many good reasons to hate Bush_
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> Do you really believe that you could possibly have any **good** reasons to _hate_ Bush? I read, and then reread all of your reasons for _hating_ this man, and I find that he has never actually hurt you… I mean, why do you use the word hate? Has he flattened the building you live in? Has he killed the ones you love? Has he done anything to actually cause you distress, or anguish? As you have, I might also find it distressing that the man has wasted _his_ chances for a better education. I might also be disapointed that our country would elect a man that could not form his own opinions without the severe influence of older men. However, this does not cause the bile of hatred to rise in my mouth. Especially in light of recent events, I have much better things to _ **hate** _ than the duly elected President of this country.

Excellent point. When Bush first started his campaign, I felt much as elucidator does, mostly indifference and contempt at such a mediocrity wanting to be president. I first heard one of my friends say he hated George Bush around last September, and it struck me as a bit over the top. I didn’t hate him. But, more and more, as he has pursued policies that favor his super-rich buds in the oil industry, and other ultra-favored groups, my contempt has grown to almost hate. OK, so maybe hate is too strong a word. I don’t hate him like I hate the truly evil, like bin Laden. And, I mostly used the word hate in response to the Scylla who said there is no good reason to hate Bush.

What I see in Bush is someone who is pursuing policies that will have a tremendously bad impact on the poor and the middle class, and the future of the planet. Bin Laden doesn’t have the power to destroy ANWR, or to kill the Kyoto Protocol, but Bush does. And, some of these policies have the potential to have a worse impact, in the long run, than the 9/11 attack. His dismissal of the small arms trafficking ban asked for by the UN, alone, will result in the deaths of many thousands of people. The continued pouring of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere could have disastrous consequences for the future of our planet, and the 178 other countries who signed up for Kyoto recognized this. The repeal of the estate tax will further concentrate power into the hands of the few. His attempted marriage of church and state will set a very negative precedent for the future of free thought. So, there are good reasons to hate what Bush is doing to our country, but it probably is too much to say I “hate” the man.

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> I want to take a minute right now to state that I don’t know what is right or good for everyone all over the country. However, I do know that no matter what the education, or how smart the man, **no one** can possibly know what is good for everyone or every demographic all over the country all at once. Therefore it is very important for a President to pick good council. You must have people around you who believe in the same things, but who can also focus on the details when you can not. This is obviously not just my idea. I can’t be sure about which President it was, but one of the first instituted the cabinet when the Constitution had given no provisions for such a body. I really don’t see this point as being arguable, but please show me where I am wrong. (besides my spelling, that is) However, you take the idea of council, and group it into the lump sum of the “extreme right wing agenda”

Well, that’s fine, as long as he would be honest about what he is doing. But, when he pushes for a trillion dollar tax cut, 40% of which will go to richest 1%, he calls it “tax relief for working people.”

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> _Red flags should have gone up around the country when Bush dismissed the Kyoto protocol as “fatally flawed”_
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> I find this extremely interesting, considering that I remember watching the news at the time when this happened. I say interesting because even the (extreme left wing) media praised Bush for seeing that the ideas presented in Kyoto were not strong enough to stem the tide of global warming that is most assuredly coming.

That is true. Kyoto will not solve our problems. But, it is a step in the right direction, and does create a framework for future action. The US is the world’s biggest polluter, and SHOULD be at the forefront of environmental action. Yet, instead, we are shirking our responsibility utterly.

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> _A man whose favorite political philosopher is “Christ” betrays that he has no ideas on political philosophy_
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> This is one of the saddest, most pathetic arguments I have ever heard. Do you not realize that the teachings of Jesus, in essence are little different from the teachings of Ghandi or Mother Teresa. These are broad and sweeping philosophical arguments, and should not be dismissed just because they are gentle and not cynical.

Please explain to me, then, what Jesus’ **political philosophy** is. The fact is that Jesus was not a political philosopher, and was not even a philosopher, if he existed at all. This comment by Bush was a cop-out, and served to pander to the Right wing conservative faction in the republican party.

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> _Rather, he was elected because Bill Clinton got a hummer_
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> Oh, come on man, you don’t really believe that Al Gore was any better of a canidate that Bush, do you? They both seemed weak and inneffectual men at the time, and since then only Bush has even begun to prove his worth… Yes, Bush has shown his worth, especially in the last month.

Oh, I think Gore would be a MUCH better president. He is probably the most qualified candidate for president we have had in the last 50 years. Gore is a thoughtful man, who thinks about what he is saying, and can think for himself. He would not be likely to toss out words like “crusade” to describe our imminent military action in the Middle East.

As for what Bush has done in the last month, I really am not that impressed. He has done what he had to do. Really, there isn’t much he COULD have done differently, except to be more of a leader. This, Gore would have done much better, IMO.

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> However, as everyone can see, this is one of my first posts as well, and I would like to thank moon for giving me something to talk about. I might not have ever posted again if it wasn’t for him/her!

Him! Glad to have some good conversation!

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**Author:** ![themoon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9dc877/32.png) [@themoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/themoon)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2001, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-why-i-hate-george-bush/89885/36 "2001-10-27T06:05:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by PhiloVance \*  
> **Sounds like themoon’s just jealous a bit.**

Jealous?

Perhaps my condemnation of Bush came across as jealousy. But, I don’t think that is it.

I am not jealous of people in power, as long as they use their power wisely, and keep themselves acountable to the people.

Perhaps you mean you think I am jealous of Bush because of his privileged upbringing. I don’t think that’s it either. Many privileged people have gone on to do quite admirable things. JFK comes to mind. In a way I am jealous of him, but I also have a great admiration for what he was able to do with his life.

When I criticize Bush for his upbringing, it is not because he was privileged _per se_, but the fact that he didn’t make use of his privileges to better himself. He floated through his life partying and relying on his family to set him up in businesses and bail him out when he failed. Such a person does not deserve anybody’s respect.

It is interesting to compare what Bush did with his life with what Clinton did. Clinton grew up dirt poor, and worked very hard to make something of his life, making it to the top on his own talent and hard work. His is truly an American dream. It’s ironic that those on the Right who talk so much of the American Dream hate this man, who lived the American Dream, with so much intensity.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2001, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-why-i-hate-george-bush/89885/37 "2001-10-27T06:37:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by elucidator \*  
> \*\*The Governor is endowed with the power to declare a given month to be Pecan Festival Month. And thats about it. Oh, yeah, and sign death warrants. \*\*

[ul]  
[li] Commander-in-Chief of the military forces of the State, except when they are called into actual service of the United States. (The Texas Constitution, Article 4, Section 7)[/li][li] Present an annual budget to the legislature for tax income (Section 9)[/li][li] Fill all vacancies in State or district offices by appointment (Section 12)[/li][li] Sign bills into law (Section 14)[/li][li] Approve orders and resolutions of the legislature (Section 15)[/li][li] Serve as head of all executive departments and be the officer in charge of execution of the laws of the state (Article 4)[/li][li] Purchase land or the right to use land that is required by Texas for any type of public use (§ 2204.001, Acquisition of Land by State)[/li][li] Remit forfeitures of bail bonds (Art. 48.04.)[/li][li] Approve restoration of civil rights to convicted criminals (Art. 48.05.)[/li][li] Determine the procedure for hearing an election contest (§ 243.009.)[/li][/ul]

This is where I got tired of cutting and pasting. But a search on the Texas Statutes with “governor may” and “governor shall” produced thousands of hits - from which I gleaned the above short excerpt.

Would you care to retract your assertion that the position of governor of Texas permits only the “power to declare a given month to be Pecan Festival Month” and “sign death warrants”?

- Rick

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**Author:** ![aegypt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/76d3ee/32.png) [@aegypt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aegypt)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2001, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-why-i-hate-george-bush/89885/38 "2001-10-27T07:32:12Z")

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It seems that the September 11 spell is beginning to wear off for Bush. Frank Rich wrote the following in the _New York Times_ today:

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> This is an administration that will let its special interests — particularly its high-rolling campaign contributors and its noisiest theocrats of the right — have veto power over public safety, public health and economic prudence in war, it turns out, no less than in peacetime. When anthrax struck, the administration’s first impulse was not to secure as much Cipro as speedily as possible to protect Americans, but to protect the right of pharmaceutical companies to profiteer. The White House’s faith in tax cuts as a panacea for all national ills has led to such absurdities as this week’s House “stimulus” package showering $254 million on Enron, the reeling Houston energy company (now under S.E.C. investigation) that has served as a Bush campaign cash machine.

(Full article at [http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/27/opinion/27RICH.html](http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/27/opinion/27RICH.html))

A few weeks ago, I would have been lynched for posting this quote, which clearly challenges the Leibnitzean assertion that America lives under the [“Best of all Possible Administrations”](http://www.ericjonas.com/features/candide/optimism/default.asp).

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2001, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-why-i-hate-george-bush/89885/39 "2001-10-27T07:33:26Z")

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One comment that I wanted to address…

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> One sentence Bush repeated endlessly during the campaign was that he was going to “bring back integrity to the White House.” This was a not so subtle slander against Gore, who was currently working in the white house, and his main opponent.

That, in my opinion, is a very weak basis for claiming that Bush was “slandering” his opponent. For one thing, the integrity thing refers to Clinton. But most of all, it’s a friggin’ campaign motto, which have been used throughout America’s history (and prior to that, no doubt) to uplift one candidate above another. If “I’m bringing back integrity” is considered a slander, then… well… our politicians must be the most thin-skinned people on Earth.

And, like some others in this thread, I am noticing many, many vauge references on how Bush is bad. Please, expand on your words a bit more. A lot of your comments carry the schoolyard mentality… when you disagree with what someone does, you just call them a poop-head.

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**Author:** ![Monster104](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Monster104](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monster104)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2001, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-why-i-hate-george-bush/89885/40 "2001-10-27T10:16:10Z")

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Let’s see…

Suppositions? Check.

Opinions? Check.

Bigotry? Check.

Unsupported, innaccurate OP? Check.

Hmmm…and the sum of this is…AN UNFOUNDED RANT! Who woulda thunk it?

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