# Hells Angels--What are "Nomad" chapters? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [May 6, 2004, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-angels-what-are-nomad-chapters/243747 "2004-05-06T00:27:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2004, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-angels-what-are-nomad-chapters/243747/1 "2004-05-06T00:27:00Z")
After reading the autobiography of Sonny Barger, founder of the Oakland Hells Angels chapter, and spending time poking around the websites of the HAMC umbrella organization and the various chapters, I’ve noticed that some chapters use the word ‘Nomads’ in their name. In fact, according to Barger’s book, the Oakland group used that designation for its first year or two of existence. Can anyone out there tell me what the ‘Nomads’ designation means? Is it something that’s understood among bikers, across all the outlaw clubs? Or is it just limited to the HAs? Was there another club called ‘Nomads’ that merged with the Angels in the early days? ---
**Author:** ![Oat1957](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Oat1957](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oat1957)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2004, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-angels-what-are-nomad-chapters/243747/2 "2004-05-06T02:19:12Z")
They were part of a merger of sorts. [Nomads](http://hellsangelsnomads.cjb.net/) After reading Barger’s book, you should read [Hunter S. Thompson](http://ar.essortment.com/whoishunters_riai.htm) account of his time with the Hells Angels. It should be available at your local library. It’s a interesting read even after 30+ years. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2004, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-angels-what-are-nomad-chapters/243747/3 "2004-05-19T18:14:26Z")
Thanks for your answer, **Oat** , though your link doesn’t really help much. It points to a New York chapter of Nomads that doesn’t really have much to say; there’s only a link to “Events”, and then, “None at this time”. Was there by chance another link you meant to give? I have read the Hunter Thompson book, but I tend to go with Barger’s account as being more authentic…if only because he is frank and completely unapologetic about his various acts of violence and intimidation. At least he doesn’t appear to be hiding anything. ---
**Author:** ![D.E.S.K.Top668](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f07891/32.png) [@D.E.S.K.Top668](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D.E.S.K.Top668)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2004, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-angels-what-are-nomad-chapters/243747/4 "2004-05-19T19:35:19Z")
No cite and IANAOB, but I asked my father-in-law about his jackect with an Angels Nomad patch a few years ago. According to what he told me, HA chapters use them when they don’t claim a hometown like, for example, Hell’s Angels Ventura (Ca). Usually it’s a chapter that has members from a large area or several small chapters that have merged together. He’s a true B.S. artist though, so I’ll stop short of saying that that’s the complete and total story. As for other clubs using it, most clubs are smaller outfits with few chapters. Pehaps another national club like the Vagos or Heathens might, but I’ve had few dealings with members of either so I can’t answer that part. Peace - DESK ---
**Author:** ![Real.Neal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c0e974/32.png) [@Real.Neal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Real.Neal)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-angels-what-are-nomad-chapters/243747/5 "2011-09-24T20:05:23Z")
Those who know won’t say, and those who say don’t know. I hope that clarifies things for you. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-angels-what-are-nomad-chapters/243747/6 "2011-09-24T20:57:00Z")
That really doesn’t clarify things at all, actually. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-angels-what-are-nomad-chapters/243747/7 "2011-09-24T21:05:20Z")
FWIW, [Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomad_%28motorcycle_club_membership%29) says a Nomad is a member who’s authorized by the regional, national, or world leadership of a club to inspect local chapters, enforce rules, and basically ensure that the clubs “ideals” are being lived up to. I’m pretty sure this article wasn’t up when I opened this thread. While I don’t think this explanation is correct in every instance, it does make sense. If you want to know about outlaw bike clubs, a half-truth is better than no-truth. Unless you want to start hanging out with the clubs. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-angels-what-are-nomad-chapters/243747/8 "2011-09-24T21:23:05Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > That really doesn’t clarify things at all, actually. But it is in red, so that’s gotta tell you something. ---
**Author:** ![Category5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Category5](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Category5)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-angels-what-are-nomad-chapters/243747/9 "2011-09-24T22:36:29Z")
If I have to explain it, you wouldn’t understand ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2011, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-angels-what-are-nomad-chapters/243747/10 "2011-09-25T00:40:47Z")
From what I’ve learned after three seasons of SOA, Nomads are guys who are authorized members of the MC but not affiliated with any particular chapter. ---
**Author:** ![Hypnagogic\_Jerk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hypnagogic_jerk/32/4252_2.png) [@Hypnagogic\_Jerk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypnagogic_Jerk)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2011, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-angels-what-are-nomad-chapters/243747/11 "2011-09-25T01:13:04Z")
> [@Category5](#): > > If I have to explain it, you wouldn’t understand I could tell you, but I’d have to kill you. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2011, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-angels-what-are-nomad-chapters/243747/12 "2011-09-25T01:53:48Z")
> [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](#): > > Hells Angels–What are “Nomad” chapters? They sterilize imperfection. Sterilize! Sterilize! Sterilize! ---
**Author:** ![redcaddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecc23a/32.png) [@redcaddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/redcaddy)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2012, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-angels-what-are-nomad-chapters/243747/13 "2012-11-03T02:47:26Z")
I was married to a member of a Hells Angel Nomad Charter. It’s very simple and not at all sinister. When a large geographical area is covered by only one charter, they are called Nomads. This is because many of the members must travel a long way to attend meetings and events put on by the club. An example would be in the Stockton area of CA, or Washington State where one charter covers the whole state. They would still have the state they reside in as a bottom rocker. The Nomad tag is usually a small tag above a front pocket where you might otherwise see Oakland, San Fran, Orange Co. etc. ---
**Author:** ![sidecar\_jon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@sidecar\_jon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sidecar_jon)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2012, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-angels-what-are-nomad-chapters/243747/14 "2012-11-03T09:45:28Z")
“Outlaws” sure seen to have a lot of laws don’t they… ---
**Author:** ![LC\_Strawhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@LC\_Strawhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LC_Strawhouse)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2012, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-angels-what-are-nomad-chapters/243747/15 "2012-11-03T14:25:37Z")
> [@redcaddy](#): > > I was married to a member of a Hells Angel Nomad Charter. It’s very simple and not at all sinister. When a large geographical area is covered by only one charter, they are called Nomads. This is because many of the members must travel a long way to attend meetings and events put on by the club. An example would be in the Stockton area of CA, or Washington State where one charter covers the whole state. They would still have the state they reside in as a bottom rocker. The Nomad tag is usually a small tag above a front pocket where you might otherwise see Oakland, San Fran, Orange Co. etc. Interesting. What was it like for you to be married to someone in that club?