# Hell's Kitchen, and it's viewers. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 14, 2010, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-its-viewers/557096 "2010-10-14T05:45:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-its-viewers/557096/41 "2010-10-14T18:24:26Z")
You donkey! ---
**Author:** ![threemae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@threemae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threemae)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-its-viewers/557096/42 "2010-10-14T18:26:18Z")
Why are you playing with your camcorder at Burger King? ---
**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-its-viewers/557096/43 "2010-10-14T18:33:47Z")
> [@corkboard](#): > > > [@Dogzilla](#): > > > > … The last thing I want to do is go home and read high-end literature or watch Helvetica (a documentary about the development of a _font_. Now there’s some must-see TV!). > > Hey! I liked Helvetica! > > 'course, my wife teased the hell out of me for watching it… I can’t quite get over the humiliation of having it in my queue. One day, when nobody is around and I feel like Geeking Out, I will fire that bad boy up. Sounds fascinating to me, but yeah. I work in desktop publishing. I’m afraid that watching Helvetica will be like taking work home. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-its-viewers/557096/44 "2010-10-14T18:39:19Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > > [@corkboard](#): > > > > Hey! I liked Helvetica! > > > > 'course, my wife teased the hell out of me for watching it… > > Dude, we saw it in the _theater._ We considered wearing paper bags over our heads so nobody would recognize us in this theater full of pretentious assholes. 🙂 Dude, I picked the most obscure, boring-sounding, pretentious asshole target market documentary I could think of and leave it to my fellow Dopers… Not only did many of you get the reference, but you’ve seen the damn movie. In the theater. With popcorn and fake butter, I hope. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-its-viewers/557096/45 "2010-10-14T18:48:48Z")
> [@threemae](#): > > Why are you playing with your camcorder at Burger King? People occasionally [get busy in a Burger King bathroom.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj9_yW8tZxs) Duh. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-its-viewers/557096/46 "2010-10-14T19:21:20Z")
> [@Stan\_Shmenge](#): > > Are these really the kind of people who work in high end kitchens? I find that really hard to believe. Most of them wouldn’t even get a job in Burger King with that kind of low class attitude, frequent profanity, and obvious psychosis. Another chiming in to join the “You’ve clearly never met anyone who works in a kitchen, ever, in your entire fucking life” parade. > [@lorene](#): > > My pet peeve is people who think they are brilliant and better than others but use “it’s” instead of “its”. Beaten to the fucking punch. > [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Eh, shit. There goes your high ground. Have I thought to offer you childbearing services yet? By this point, I’m sure I must owe you at least five for all the hilarity you provide. > [@Dogzilla](#): > > The last thing I want to do is go home and read high-end literature or watch Helvetica (a documentary about the development of a _font_. _ **YOU TAKE THAT BACK.** _ \*Helvetica \*was fucking **awesome**. (My only disappointment was that the word “kerning” appeared nowhere in it.) ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-its-viewers/557096/47 "2010-10-14T19:26:50Z")
> [@Dogzilla](#): > > > [@Zsofia](#): > > > > Dude, we saw it in the _theater._ We considered wearing paper bags over our heads so nobody would recognize us in this theater full of pretentious assholes. 🙂 > > Dude, I picked the most obscure, boring-sounding, pretentious asshole target market documentary I could think of and leave it to my fellow Dopers… Not only did many of you get the reference, but you’ve seen the damn movie. In the theater. With popcorn and fake butter, I hope. 🆒 With _beer._ It’s actually quite funny in places. ---
**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-its-viewers/557096/48 "2010-10-14T19:27:34Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > \ > _ **YOU TAKE THAT BACK.** _ \*Helvetica \*was fucking **awesome**. (My only disappointment was that the word “kerning” appeared nowhere in it.) Now, that \*is \*a disappointment. You so rarely hear that word anywhere (except at work and even here, it’s kind of rare to talk about kerning). ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-its-viewers/557096/49 "2010-10-14T19:32:09Z")
> [@Dogzilla](#): > > > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > > > \ > > _ **YOU TAKE THAT BACK.** _ \*Helvetica \*was fucking **awesome**. (My only disappointment was that the word “kerning” appeared nowhere in it.) > > Now, that \*is \*a disappointment. You so rarely hear that word anywhere (except at work and even here, it’s kind of rare to talk about kerning). I call shenanigans–how can it be possible to discuss in great detail the development of a font _without_ discussing kerning? That’s bullshit, mang. ---
**Author:** ![akwally1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akwally1/32/3220_2.png) [@akwally1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/akwally1)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-its-viewers/557096/50 "2010-10-14T19:47:41Z")
Hell’s Kitchen was a very good show the first season as it had people who could actually cook on the show. Then for the second season they threw out the good cooks and remade the show to be more of a Mtv “Real World” type. So even though now it sucks (to my eye), it started out as a real cooking competition. Mark ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-its-viewers/557096/51 "2010-10-14T19:47:51Z")
I hate Larry the Cable Guy and I have no idea who Neil Gaiman is. Where am I on the taste spectrum? Oh, and I wouldn’t be caught dead in a Burger King. Actually, I would ONLY be caught dead in a Burger King. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-its-viewers/557096/52 "2010-10-14T19:59:29Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Oh, and I wouldn’t be caught dead in a Burger King. Actually, I would ONLY be caught dead in a Burger King. Have it youuuurrrrr way, have it your way . . . ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-its-viewers/557096/53 "2010-10-14T20:03:16Z")
> [@Meyer6](#): > > How did you acquire the back story about them living in their car and coming to BK to see her ‘favourite’ show and not buy anything? Did they tell you this, or did you just fill it in yourself?. He determined it because she appeared overweight to him, thus she was “trailer trash”.:rolleyes: Amazing how he could tell where she lived by how much she weighed- damn, Sherlock Holmes move over, dude!:dubious: I’d also like to know what the hell the OP was doing in a Burger King if his tastes are so high brow, and what the **fuck** he was doing there with \*“prosumer HD camcorders and expensive Manfrotto tripods”. \*. And whatever “prosumer” means to the OP is likely not what he think it means, but hell, \*no one \*knows what the hell it means anyway- other than the fact that anyone using it is pretentious as all fuck. > **[Prosumer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosumer)** > > A prosumer is an individual who both consumes and produces. The term is a portmanteau of the words producer and consumer. Research has identified six types of prosumers: DIY prosumers, self-service prosumers, customizing prosumers, collaborative prosumers, monetised prosumers, and economic prosumers. > The terms prosumer and prosumption were coined in 1980 by Alvin Toffler, an American futurist, and were widely used by many technology writers of the time. Technological breakthroughs and a rise in ... ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-its-viewers/557096/54 "2010-10-14T20:05:48Z")
So, seriously now, can we petition to have the title of this thread changed to “Hell’s, Kitchen. and it’s, viewer’s.”? > [@SmartAleq](#): > > I call shenanigans–how can it be possible to discuss in great detail the development of a font _without_ discussing kerning? I want to say that I recall it being discussed in a general sense, just without using the specific term. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-its-viewers/557096/55 "2010-10-14T20:07:15Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > I hate Larry the Cable Guy and I have no idea who Neil Gaiman is. . Not\* knowing\* who Neil Gaiman is (as opposed to being a fan) does show a startling amount of cultural illiteracy by a poster who over all has seemed to generally have more than a modicum of intelligence.☹ Sorry dude. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-its-viewers/557096/56 "2010-10-14T20:08:31Z")
I think there’s a weight limit for trailer, beyond which you crash through the floors, and couln’t get through the door anyway. So she must have looked less than that. And then there was her washing rag-on-a-stick. The length of the stick is severely limited for trailer trash. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-its-viewers/557096/57 "2010-10-14T20:12:19Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > > [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > > > I hate Larry the Cable Guy and I have no idea who Neil Gaiman is. . > > Not\* knowing\* who Neil Gaiman is (as opposed to being a fan) does show a startling amount of cultural illiteracy by a poster who over all has seemed to generally have more than a modicum of intelligence.☹ Sorry dude. Yeah, well… I started fading out on pop culture a long time ago, starting with music in the early 80s. There’s not a single broadcast TV series I watch. I guess I’ll go look him up. Interesting that you relate cultural literacy to intelligence. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-its-viewers/557096/58 "2010-10-14T20:18:58Z")
> [@lorene](#): > > > [@MeanOldLady](#): > > > > Now hold on a minute. He may have gotten _cheese_ on his Whopper. > > He may even have asked for it as _fromage_. Maybe he asked for a Royale with Cheese. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-its-viewers/557096/59 "2010-10-14T20:22:13Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > > [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > > > I hate Larry the Cable Guy and I have no idea who Neil Gaiman is. . > > Not\* knowing\* who Neil Gaiman is (as opposed to being a fan) does show a startling amount of cultural illiteracy by a poster who over all has seemed to generally have more than a modicum of intelligence.☹ Sorry dude. Christ, he’s a _comic book writer_??? Oh, yeah, not knowing him makes me an idiot. Wiki says he’s also a sci-fi writer, and I used to read sci-fi voraciously. But a few months back[I did a thread asking for new authors/titles to get back into the genre](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=562597), and no one mentioned him. I wonder why? ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-its-viewers/557096/60 "2010-10-14T20:22:18Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Yeah, well… I started fading out on pop culture a long time ago Neil Gaiman isn’t what I’d call “pop culture,” at all. He’s best known as an author, mainly of comic books, the one that most people first think of being _Sandman_. He’s also written a few novels, such as \*Neverwhere \*and _American Gods_, as well as children’s books like \*Coraline \*(which was recently turned into a film). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-its-viewers/557096.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-its-viewers/557096.md?page=4)