# Hell's Kitchen and MasterChef Summer 2012 \*open spoiler\* **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 5, 2012, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212 "2012-06-05T22:45:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![jrepka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee59a6/32.png) [@jrepka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jrepka)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/221 "2012-07-26T20:03:20Z")
> [@Waenara](#): > > As to the second part of your post, I think David is pretty oblivious. He kept talking about how he wanted the “Flavor Elevator” dude to get back in the competition so he could personally beat him, and he keeps saying that the others underestimate him. When Monti says the same thing, I believe her. When David says it, I think he’s a little deluded. Agreed. He seems to be pretty lucky to still be there, and he should be _way_ more worried about competing against the rest of the finalists, rather than mouthing off about beating Ryan again. Lucky for Josh that David and Felix made inedible dishes – if he’d been eliminated the whole week would’ve been a wash! ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2012, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/222 "2012-07-31T00:40:27Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > Must be galling to Ryan to find he not just lost, but didn’t get a single vote for his tart. He didn’t even get a “keep cooking, you’re awesome, bro” goodbye from the judges. > [@Maserschmidt](#): > > Master Chef is better at giving straightforward hints than HK is. When a couple of people commented on the quality of the tart cut - and on the cherries - I was pretty sure they were guessing it was Ryan, and he was dead. If they were smart, they’d have voted for the worse tart, so as to get the weaker contestant back. Much as I wanted to see Ryan back just because I like how much the rest hate him, Josh is much stiffer competition and should’ve been the one with immunity from the team for the pressure test he lost on. He thus shouldn’t have ever been eliminated. ---
**Author:** ![Waenara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@Waenara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waenara)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2012, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/223 "2012-07-31T01:22:36Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > If they were smart, they’d have voted for the worse tart, so as to get the weaker contestant back. Much as I wanted to see Ryan back just because I like how much the rest hate him, Josh is much stiffer competition and should’ve been the one with immunity from the team for the pressure test he lost on. He thus shouldn’t have ever been eliminated. When I was first watching the show with the tarts, I also thought that strategic voting would be the best thing they could do. I was somewhat surprised that they didn’t. But then thinking about it, overall the contestants don’t seem to have a lot of competitive ruthlessness compared to other reality shows, and even compared to other reality cooking shows. In that episode where the winner of the challenge got to pick fish for the others to cook, they assigned some “easy” fish to some of the better cooks, and the judges commented on that. I noticed that they were the better cooks who also seem like nice people. The better cooks who are sometimes catty or mean still got hard fish assigned to them. Also, when David forgot to get rice for his rice pudding, someone else gave it to him. And when the judges asked who else would have given David rice if they’d had it, all of them (except Josh) raised their hands, and the judges seemed surprised that they would all help out David instead of letting him flame out. The idea that they’d “rather beat him because they have a better dish than him” is idealistic, but not exactly the coldly rational calculation most reality shows encourage with strategic voting. I noted that Josh - the only one previously eliminated and then returned - was the only one who wouldn’t have helped David. I think Josh has a better sense than the others of how much is sucks to be eliminated and how much he wants to win. Maybe when some more people get eliminated they will view their decisions differently in hindsight. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/224 "2012-08-14T01:47:43Z")
Wow. Dana. The bikini. You know? ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/225 "2012-08-14T01:57:43Z")
The whole living room erupted in cheers when Robyn got cut. That took way too long to happen… ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/226 "2012-08-14T14:11:57Z")
Wow, it’s amazing how much difference two weeks off made for me. It’s like I lost my rooting interest. ☹ I was actually bored – I think the remaining cooks are all to close to adequate. 😃 And, even though I watched all the seasons, I barely remembered some of the returnees, though I’m sure that says more about my memory than them. Oh, and can we add Hotel Hell to the thread? Because I loved the first episode, nothing like a totally delusional owner with an OCD fetish for antique furnishings AND an attitude that would have done Louis XV proud. “Why don’t locals eat at your restaurant?” “We haven’t identifed the _right_ people to reach out to, yet.” I don’t see any hope at all for Ramsay fixing this problem. Oh, they’ll bandage it over for the second part, but no way is that guy going to resolve all his problems with one of those magical realizations of “oh, I’ve been wrong, now I’ve seen the light.” Whatever changes they make, they’ll backslide almost immediately. ---
**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/227 "2012-08-14T14:16:26Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > Wow. Dana. The bikini. You know? Hummina hummina hummina. She’s hiding a smokin’ body underneath that chef’s uniform. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/228 "2012-08-14T16:09:22Z")
I was rather pleased with Hotel Hell! They ought to have a guest appearance by one of the Hoarders people on the next episode. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ministryman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@ministryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ministryman)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/229 "2012-08-14T16:10:38Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > Wow. Dana. The bikini. You know? Best. Bikini. On. Hell’s Kitchen. Ever. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/230 "2012-08-15T17:40:31Z")
Damn, Frank, you’ve proven to the world that you have no integrity. When it was a hypothetical, you said you’d save Josh but when shit got real, you left him to twist. Nice move. And Josh only barely won that challenge, thanks to David’s overuse of garlic. Nice of [what’s his name] to give David a job, though. ---
**Author:** ![Dingbang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@Dingbang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dingbang)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/231 "2012-08-15T17:52:15Z")
Anybody else notice Monti’s figure in that blue dress at the restaurant? Tiny waist, nice curves, and that faux '40s looks with the hair and glasses. Works for me. Loved the Helen Keller team in the kitchen. “What? Where? Huh?” ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/232 "2012-08-15T19:38:06Z")
Yeah Frank is an asshole and I am now rooting for Josh even more so, behind Becky and Christine. 'Bout time worthless David got kicked, it’s too bad he’ll be getting a position at a restaurant when he sucks so badly. ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/233 "2012-08-15T20:05:52Z")
I know, I’m on the fast track to hell, but I actually laughed out loud when they asked Joe what station he’d put Christine in, and he replied ‘coat check.’ BTW, has there ever been a mention of Monte having a hearing problem before? ---
**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/234 "2012-08-15T20:30:54Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > BTW, has there ever been a mention of Monte having a hearing problem before? What? ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/235 "2012-08-15T20:34:30Z")
> [@corkboard](#): > > What? 😃 I was hoping Becky would develop laryngitis. Then they could be team three monkeys. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/236 "2012-08-15T23:13:19Z")
> [@corkboard](#): > > Hummina hummina hummina. She’s hiding a smokin’ body underneath that chef’s uniform. > [@ministryman](#): > > Best. Bikini. On. Hell’s Kitchen. Ever. :eek: Wife: “Oh, that’s ridiculous…who wants to look at her stupid pierced belly button?” Me: “What belly button? I was looking at her boobs!” Wife: “” ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/237 "2012-08-15T23:17:13Z")
It looked to me that all of David’s steaks were cooked to the same level of doneness. Josh blew well done, but was better on the other two. StG ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/238 "2012-08-15T23:17:50Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > I know, I’m on the fast track to hell, but I actually laughed out loud when they asked Joe what station he’d put Christine in, and he replied ‘coat check.’ > [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > 😃 > > I was hoping Becky would develop laryngitis. Then they could be team three monkeys. I laughed out loud at both of these jokes. ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/239 "2012-08-16T00:00:46Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > Wife: “Oh, that’s ridiculous…who wants to look at her stupid pierced belly button?” > Me: “What belly button? I was looking at her boobs!” > Wife: “” I love belly button piercings on women. If they’d given us more ogling time, I might have actually noticed she had a pierced belly button. Alas, her boobs caught my attention far more easily. ---
**Author:** ![jrepka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee59a6/32.png) [@jrepka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jrepka)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/240 "2012-08-16T00:19:21Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > I know, I’m on the fast track to hell, but I actually laughed out loud when they asked Joe what station he’d put Christine in, and he replied ‘coat check.’ Very big of him to admit that he was wrong at the end. She’s hard not to root for, though I can’t see her in the final (see what I did there?). Whatever leeway they are giving her, I am amazed at what she can do in terms of preparation, cooking and presentation – especially given the time limitations. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212.md?page=13)