# Hell's Kitchen and MasterChef Summer 2012 \*open spoiler\*

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 5, 2012, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212 "2012-06-05T22:45:09Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/41 "2012-06-13T16:50:34Z")

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> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> I was surprised at the guy who got eliminated at the risotto. Yeah, he forgot to wash his mushrooms, but compared with all the people who undercooked the rice and/or dumped in a zillion weird ingredients that seemed like a smaller mistake.

What was hilarious was when he asked the judge not to eat the mushrooms.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/42 "2012-06-13T20:38:15Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> I’m certain **Hell’s Kitchen** is intentionally cast with people who will both not get along and are only marginally capable chefs, so as to ensure drama between themselves and to piss off Gordon Ramsay.
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> I was remarking to my GF during last night’s episode that if they cast all hispanic line cooks, it would be a very boring show because every dish would come out perfect every time because,
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> > [@Anthony Bourdain](#):
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> > A three-star Italian chef pal of mine [snip] greatly prefers Ecuadorians, as many chefs do: 'The Italian guy? You screaming at him in the rush, “Where’s that risotto?! Is that fucking risotto ready yet? Gimme that risotto!” …and the Italian …he’s gonna give it to you. An Ecuadorian guy? He’s gonna just turn his back …and stir the risotto and keep cooking it until it’s done the way you showed him.

Hooray for us Ecuadorians!!! 🆒

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/43 "2012-06-13T20:48:58Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> The problem was that he had a low-profile personality. It’s more exciting to keep guys like Ryan or Tavi (?), who constantly say stupid things and get weird looks on their faces.
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> On HK, I’m already tired of Kimmie and Robyn, though I had to laugh when Kimmie was downing the mountain oysters while the other contestants were throwing up. It was like an episode of Fear Factor gone awry.

You know, I’ve seen that less often on _MasterChef_ than on other comparable cooking shows, most notably _Top Chef_. The elimination was a bummer but also a bit of a no-brainer. It’s one thing to under cook something, or be misguided in your level of creativity. But if a fundamental part of your prep makes your meal taste like your tongue’s taking a dirt bath, that’s a newbie error–plus, he must not have tasted the food or he would’ve noticed (or resigned himself to it).

You’ll notice many of the sob story people didn’t make it to the finals. The colorful personalities or interesting backgrounds. A lot of them got axed, as did the husband in the husband/wife contestants. If they were casting for drama, you know quite a few would’ve stayed. Which shows that the decisions seem less based on that than others.

Since it hasn’t been addressed–the blind woman (Christine?) has an assistant who walks to the pantry with her and grabs the ingredients as she needs them. But other than that, it looks like she mostly leaves her alone. And as for drama quotient, she really wasn’t in the top or bottom this last time. She’s just one of the group now. Should make the team challenge interesting with her, though.

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/44 "2012-06-13T21:16:36Z")

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> [@MovieMogul](#):
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> Since it hasn’t been addressed–the blind woman (Christine?) has an assistant who walks to the pantry with her and grabs the ingredients as she needs them. But other than that, it looks like she mostly leaves her alone. And as for drama quotient, she really wasn’t in the top or bottom this last time. She’s just one of the group now. Should make the team challenge interesting with her, though.

Yeah. Previously they’ve done school yard picks to create the teams each time, and since they named two captains this last show I’m betting they plan to do the same.

It will be very awkward if the blind girl gets picked last. ☹

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/45 "2012-06-13T21:19:25Z")

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I love the type of challenges they had on MasterChef last episode, where they have an ingredient (like ground beef) and everyone has to make their own spin on it. Watching that gives me ideas about what to cook when I have a fairly common ingredient

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/46 "2012-06-14T01:33:33Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> And as far as Masterchef goes, what’s with all the goddamn crying? That one chick last night, Monti I believe, she was crying while cooking, during the judging, and was still crying _after_ she had been put through and they were judging someone else. And the Asian chick too, Felix, is also constantly fucking crying. Get a fucking grip, you’re on national television!

Yeah, they always seem to have some over the top reactions. I mean, I can sort of get Monti being an emotional person and crying a lot because it’s a stressful environment, but they always seem to have people getting totally freaked at other contestants getting raked over the coals, and that’s weird, since that’s something that’s only going to improve their own chances.

As for the finger incident on HK, wow, lying promos are lying. I was sure it was going to be minor, but they blatantly added someone saying “he cut off his finger” to the commercials, no one said anything of the sort in the actual show. :rolleyes: I mean, I didn’t expect his finger to actually be severed, but no one reacted that way they were all just “oh tis a flesh wound”.

Back to MasterChef, I was glad this year that for the 36 to 18 round they actually had a challenge, rather than throwing half the people out based on how they can slice an apple or onion like in past seasons. I wasn’t too pleased that the judges only tasted 12 of the dishes, though. I realize, time constraints, yadda yadda, but damn, so much food in the trash without a single bite. I mean, montage some of the stuff, just at least try the food. Maybe something that looked like total shit was actually good. Maybe one of the dishes that got an automatic pass actually tasted horrendous. I really don’t like when they only try a few.

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/47 "2012-06-14T14:12:40Z")

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Good Lord. Just watched the most recent \*Hell’s Kitchen \*last night— as if Don wasn’t already a dead ringer for Edgar from _Men In Black_, then even put him in \*overalls \*for chrissake…

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/48 "2012-06-14T16:45:41Z")

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I swear that Monti is the blonde with the potty mouth from last season’s MC. She just dyed her hair and changed her bio a little to get a second chance.

I so want Kimmie out of HK along with Caroline Rhea. If you want to have an attitude AND you can cook then you’re “interesting”. If you have an attitude and you can’t cook then you’re just annoying. And Royce is a front-runner for the delusional douche award.

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/49 "2012-06-14T16:46:05Z")

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> [@MovieMogul](#):
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> A lot of them got axed, as did the husband in the husband/wife contestants. .

I thought only one of them got the ax? The husband I think.

> [@TBG](#):
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> I wasn’t too pleased that the judges only tasted 12 of the dishes, though. I realize, time constraints, yadda yadda, but damn, so much food in the trash without a single bite. I mean, montage some of the stuff, just at least try the food. Maybe something that looked like total shit was actually good. Maybe one of the dishes that got an automatic pass actually tasted horrendous. I really don’t like when they only try a few.

They make their way through the stations and look and taste as the contestants are cooking. Not everybody gets their dish judged on the podium, but I don’t think the other dishes are just ignored.

The part I don’t get is why they are showing episodes back to back two nights in a row. Why not try to stretch your schedule out?

“This week on Survivor: The contestants arrive on the island and we make our way to the final five.”

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/50 "2012-06-14T17:02:51Z")

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> [@Duke\_of\_Rat](#):
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> The part I don’t get is why they are showing episodes back to back two nights in a row. Why not try to stretch your schedule out?
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> “This week on Survivor: The contestants arrive on the island and we make our way to the final five.”

According to TheFutonCritic, both HK and MasterChef will air two nights a week until just before the Olympics start, then run repeats for two weeks, then each run one night a week until they end. This should allow them to stretch into September. It looks like HK episodes will be paired with Hotel Hell on Mondays, while MC episodes will be paired with a repeat of the previous episode on Tuesdays.

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**Post date:** [June 15, 2012, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/51 "2012-06-15T05:22:29Z")

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> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> According to TheFutonCritic, both HK and MasterChef will air two nights a week until just before the Olympics start, then run repeats for two weeks, then each run one night a week until they end. This should allow them to stretch into September. It looks like HK episodes will be paired with Hotel Hell on Mondays, while MC episodes will be paired with a repeat of the previous episode on Tuesdays.

Heaven forbid there be anything else new to watch for people that don’t care for the Olympics! :smack:  
And I’m glad I’m not the only one thinking that annoying red team member is like Caroline Rhea with rabies. Well, maybe I’m the only one thinking the rabies part, but she’s quite annoying. So she’s probably a shoo-in to at least make it to the black coat team.

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/52 "2012-06-19T15:38:12Z")

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“Show them your nipples so we get more votes.”

That guy is an idiot. You say for them to show off their tits - not nipples. If you’re going to be a male mouth-breather at least get it right.

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/53 "2012-06-19T16:18:46Z")

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Is Ramsay just having fun throwing people out of the kitchen, or are they sucking worse than usual? (Or am I just being jaded after watching Top Chef in between HK seasons?) I don’t remember this many people being chucked out of the kitchen individually - versus the “shut it down!” orders for half/the whole kitchen to get out - before.

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/54 "2012-06-19T17:15:11Z")

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> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> Yeah. Previously they’ve done school yard picks to create the teams each time, and since they named two captains this last show I’m betting they plan to do the same.
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> It will be very awkward if the blind girl gets picked last. ☹

Yes, it was very awkward ☹

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/55 "2012-06-19T20:51:39Z")

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Does Gordon Ramsey have a men-in-uniform fetish or is it just military/fireman/police glurge that he fills his shows with? “Do you seriously expect me to serve this dogs vomit to these HEROES? Donkey!”

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/56 "2012-06-19T21:11:24Z")

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Earth to Kimmie: You are a white chick from Memphis. You are “redneck”, maybe “hillbilly” not “ghetto”.

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/57 "2012-06-19T22:54:00Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> Yes, it was very awkward ☹

I didn’t watch the whole show, but I did see this part…her response made the guy who picked Hipster Chick instead of her look like a real douchebag.

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/58 "2012-06-20T01:49:15Z")

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Christine, the blind woman, is some kind of genius. She can do no wrong. Kind of hard not to be a fan.

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/59 "2012-06-20T03:31:08Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> Christine, the blind woman, is some kind of genius. She can do no wrong. Kind of hard not to be a fan.

Yes, she appears to have some serious cooking skills. Far from a “novelty contestant”!

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/60 "2012-06-20T06:01:22Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> Yes, it was very awkward ☹

So THIS week they declared her dish best and make her one of next episodes captains – nice solution to avoid having her picked last again.

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