# Hell's Kitchen and MasterChef Summer 2012 \*open spoiler\*

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 5, 2012, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212 "2012-06-05T22:45:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![adhemar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@adhemar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adhemar)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/141 "2012-07-04T20:24:22Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> I can’t tell you why exactly but I betcha that her ex wanted to name the kid Danger and Monti went along with it even though she disagreed.

In think it is a trendy thing. I have an aquaintance who named her daughter Danger,of course I also have friends who named their son Heironymous and another with a son named Tyberious. Fortunatly both have really big dads and strong mothers so these boys will know how to defend themseves.

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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/142 "2012-07-05T05:02:01Z")

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I don’t know if I can finish this season of HK. Its degenerated more than ever into a yelling contest. The entire thing more predictable and staged than ever.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/143 "2012-07-05T10:56:44Z")

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> [@zagloba](#):
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> Next week: “It’s Master Chef, not Master Bait!”

That made me just about choke on my popcorn when I saw it. Too funny.  
Man, Joe has no problem being mean. He would make me cry. 🙂 And Monti can cook. I’d love to have her soup and soda bread recipes.

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/144 "2012-07-05T14:08:25Z")

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On an HK note, I found it hilarious that when Kimmie got burned in part 1 you clearly and distinctly heard the medic tell her at least twice that she would not be allowed to return to the kitchen that night. Cut to part 2, and she gets bandaged up and sent back in to cook with no mention of not being allowed to return and by the time the fighting was going on in the dorm she did not even have the bandages any more.

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**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/145 "2012-07-05T15:52:11Z")

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> [@BrassyPhrase](#):
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> My Fella (I addicted him to HK) have this thing..the music swells, Gordon says "  
> And the person to go home is…" And we both scream “COMMERCIAL”!  
> Tv show and we get so much fun from it.

Hee. I annoy El Hubbo by explaning the little joke they always have in that quick graphic cut right before the commercial. Like Kimmie getting burned, then they cut to a quick graphic of a frying pat with bacon frying away and some smoke comes out in the Hell’s Kitchen trident logo, and I’ll say, “see, it’s funny because she just got a grease burn. Get it?”

or “It’s because it’s so steamy in the kitchen, get it?” or “It’s because he was sweating so bad, get it?” or “Oh! Because they cut the meat too soon and didn’t let it rest, get it?” Or whatever, as appropriate for that little graphic thingie.

Yes, I am lucky that he puts up with me. Cracks me up, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Chicagojeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@Chicagojeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicagojeff)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/146 "2012-07-05T16:00:25Z")

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> [@BrassyPhrase](#):
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> I couldn’t watch that. I don’t have that much schadenfreude in…anywhere in me.
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> My Fella (I addicted him to HK) have this thing..the music swells, Gordon says "  
> And the person to go home is…" And we both scream “COMMERCIAL”!  
> Tv show and we get so much fun from it.

Me and the G/F watch it together too.. we just yell at each other ITS RAW!!! I like it when Gordon says.. “Come here you!!!”…

Ten seasons people.. nothing can stay compleletly fresh. It really hinges on the people they’ve chosen for the cast.. I really like last years group.. and the last year’s group on Biggest Loser.. the cast on both shows recent year.. they suck..

Rooting for Clemenza and Brian.. Justin can cook his ass off.. and as for the women.. Christina is so much better than the rest of them .. they deliberately ignore her (producers) we would see that she is obvious to make the finals.

Robin.. Tiffany.. ughhh another reason to watch. vicariously hoping they catch on fire.. lol

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**Author:** ![VOW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vow/32/3043_2.png) [@VOW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VOW)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/147 "2012-07-05T20:24:25Z")

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> [@Snickers](#):
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> Hee. I annoy El Hubbo by explaning the little joke they always have in that quick graphic cut right before the commercial. Like Kimmie getting burned, then they cut to a quick graphic of a frying pat with bacon frying away and some smoke comes out in the Hell’s Kitchen trident logo, and I’ll say, “see, it’s funny because she just got a grease burn. Get it?”
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> or “It’s because it’s so steamy in the kitchen, get it?” or “It’s because he was sweating so bad, get it?” or “Oh! Because they cut the meat too soon and didn’t let it rest, get it?” Or whatever, as appropriate for that little graphic thingie.
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> Yes, I am lucky that he puts up with me. Cracks me up, anyway.

C’mon. You left out the BEST one!

Robyn screams at Kimmie: “Suck %&#$!”

Cut to a skillet, and a kielbasa is thrown in, with the HK logo.  
~VOW

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/148 "2012-07-05T20:43:30Z")

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No winner? When you kick out the entire red team but keep 3 of the blue team and they finish their own and the red team’s service? BWAH? I know things are rigged and all, but could they at least try and pretend it’s not?

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/149 "2012-07-05T21:15:01Z")

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No. At this point the Drama trumps everything. Even the last bit of credibility the might’ve had.

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**Author:** ![adhemar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@adhemar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adhemar)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/150 "2012-07-06T02:01:05Z")

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I am a little behind in episodes but wanted to tell you that Kimmie on hells Kitchen graduated from collierville High school about as far from the hood in Memphis as you can get.

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**Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/151 "2012-07-06T13:13:58Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Cowboy Mike & Tanya
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> I have to say that with the women on HK, it looks like the girlfights I saw when teaching middle school.
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> Kimmie - the bully that uses size to intimidate and talks about how ghetto and gangsta she is. Combination of self-delusional (everything I do is right) and might make right. Like a bully, she is always being unfairly attacked when someone stands up to her. Needs to be punched in the face like Sarah Silverman in _Way of the Gun_.
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> Christina - complete instigator then cries about how she can’t stand it. In some ways just as bad as Kimmie at creating drama.
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> Robyn - I like that she stands up to Kimmie. Her problem is that she alienated most of her team early on.
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> Tiffany - Always looks like that a drunk girl at a party that is half a drink from falling asleep. She’s like a jackel on a ribroast when it comes to her hate of Barbie and of the 5 listed, by far the weakest cook. When asked on a scale of 0-10 of her passion, she said 9. How the f\*\*k do you give a number smaller than 10 as an answer to that question?
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> Barbie - In some ways the most hated character type in reality shows. She knows this is a game and is playing for the win both by subtle manipulation (telling Chef Andi the onions were too thick) and the psychological games. What does it say about the Red Team that the Manipulator is almost an afterthought this season.

This analysis is spot on, particularly the part about Tiffany. Brilliant.

I so want to see a fistfight between Kimmie and Robyn. Robyn could beat the shit out of her.

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**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/152 "2012-07-06T13:19:54Z")

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The best part is that Tiffany had to \*think \*about it! The hell?

Girl be du-umb. And she can’t cook.

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**Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/153 "2012-07-06T13:20:38Z")

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Forgot to mention: In Master Chef, Monti looks like a younger, slightly more crazy Susan Sarandon; she’d be lots of fun for a night but too wacky to be a steady thing.

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/154 "2012-07-08T23:29:26Z")

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> [@adhemar](#):
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> I am a little behind in episodes but wanted to tell you that Kimmie on hells Kitchen graduated from collierville High school about as far from the hood in Memphis as you can get.

Oh, it’s quite obvious that she’s just some sort of wannabe that thinks she’s ghetto because she once bought a rap CD.

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**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2012, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/155 "2012-07-09T14:50:55Z")

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We just caught up on MasterChef - it’s fun, but we haven’t been watching it for whatever reason. All’s I can say is:

Sprinkles? Candied sprinkles?! Am I being punked? Seriously.

If any chef on any of Ramsay’s other shows used sprinkles, even on a trifle, Gordon would tear him/her a new one. I cannot believe these were featured on his supposedly favorite dessert. I’m a huge fan of everyone who left them off, because sprinkles? Seriously?

No freaking way.

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**Author:** ![Chicagojeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@Chicagojeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicagojeff)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/156 "2012-07-10T03:46:54Z")

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> [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](#):
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> Monti is fairly physically attractive (she looks _very_ similar to a server at my local watering hole, just a bit heavier and a few years older; If you are ever in Salt Lake, I’ll introduce you to her, as she could be Monti’s little sister, right down to the kooky glasses) but while I realize this might make me sound judgmental and callus, I think that anyone who would actually name a child Danger must be an attention whore of the highest order, and someone who thrives on the attitude of “Lookit Me!!! Lookit Meee!!!; I Flaunt Social Convention!!!” and so is to be avoided at every opportunity.
> 
> There was another really attractive woman on the first couple of episodes, but I guess she has already gotten the axe…

I bet you’re talking about Helene.. yeah she was a stunner.. but she kept coming up real short..  
Still can’t believe Ryan took himself out.. Tali sucks.. I would have made them call my name..

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**Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/157 "2012-07-10T14:26:38Z")

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On Hell’s Kitchen last night, one team’s VIP customers were two former American Idol winners, while the other team’s VIP customers were David Beckham and his son. So first of all, there’s sort of an imbalance in the level of celebrity wattage. And second, did we even see the American Idol winners? Perhaps I missed it, as I only sort-of pay attention to this show, but I thought we only saw Beckham and his son.

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**Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/158 "2012-07-10T14:46:21Z")

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Actually, they showed the Blue team’s guests a number of time, mostly looking at each other in reaction to the antics of Ramsey/Blue team cooks.

It’s just that they were a perfectly ordinary looking girl and boy, so if you don’t watch American Idol they just blended in with the reaction shots of random diners.

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**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/159 "2012-07-10T15:04:22Z")

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My satellite went out during Masterchef. Did they show how Christine managed to kill and dismember her seas urchin? I saw Ramsey show her the hole he made and the interior parts, but it seemed a particularly difficult challenge for a blind person.

And I knew Monti would do well with all the nay-saying going on. And she didn’t cry once during this ep!

StG

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**Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/160 "2012-07-10T15:06:51Z")

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I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone bread salmon before. Is that a thing that people do?

Also, on Top Chef, taking the easy way out is really, really frowned on and Felix’s taking the fish with medium difficulty would be the right move. Is it different on this show? The judges here seemed to think she should take the easiest fish - is that standard for this show?

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