# Hell's Kitchen and MasterChef Summer 2012 \*open spoiler\* **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 5, 2012, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212 "2012-06-05T22:45:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/161 "2012-07-10T15:36:22Z")
**amarinth** - I think the judges on Masterchef understand it’s better to coast along in the middle than to risk it all and go home. As for salmon, I’ve never seen it breaded like that - Christine isn’t Mrs. Paul. But I knew Christine should be safe due to her prior performance, unless she just totally blew it. Tali has frequently been in the bottom. He deserved to go home. StG ---
**Author:** ![fumster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fumster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fumster)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/162 "2012-07-11T01:38:36Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone bread salmon before. Is that a thing that people do? No. You can broil, grill, roast, bake, and steam salmon. Breading it is just stupid, if for no other reason than that you cover up the beautiful pink flesh. ---
**Author:** ![Big\_Norse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/big_norse/32/9954_2.png) [@Big\_Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Big_Norse)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/163 "2012-07-11T19:27:35Z")
> [@StGermain](#): > > My satellite went out during Masterchef. Did they show how Christine managed to kill and dismember her seas urchin? I saw Ramsey show her the hole he made and the interior parts, but it seemed a particularly difficult challenge for a blind person. They showed her asking her helper if she was stabbing at the right spot with the scissors, and there was a {gasp}“Oh no!” But there didn’t seem to be any other issues. She was one of the cooks that wore a glove to hold the sucker. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/164 "2012-07-11T19:40:35Z")
I’m surprised it took so long to get rid of Towelie. He didn’t seem to be making the slightest effort to take the contest seriously, and always wore a “yeah, whatever” perma-smirk. Even his final word at the end, about how great it was to have had the opportunity, yadda yadda, sounded like sarcasm. On Hell’s Kitchen, who the hell is “Ralph” that Ramsay told Royce to say hi to when he (rather unceremoniously) gave him the boot? ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/165 "2012-07-11T19:49:21Z")
Ralph is Bryce’s employer, that knows Ramsay through some means that they explained once that I’ve forgotten. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/166 "2012-07-11T19:50:06Z")
On that note, just found [this interview with Tali](http://cartermatt.com/26261/masterchef-exclusive-interview-tali-clavijo-defends-final-dish/) about his exit from the show. [Quote=Tali] The way I look at it, I represent a new era of cooks. It’s kind of like when Van Gogh was painting his paintings. He wasn’t known, and people actually hated him. I don’t have to die to get noticed … I wanted to pave the way for new cooks, and if I end up being sacrificed for it, so be it. [/quote] Whatever he may lack in cooking skills, he certainly gains back in humility. ---
**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/167 "2012-07-11T19:54:43Z")
> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#): > > Ralph is Bryce’s employer, that knows Ramsay through some means that they explained once that I’ve forgotten. Ralph Pagano is Bryce’s employer. He was a contestant. Season 1. He was the runner up. [Wiki explanation.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell's_Kitchen_(U.S._season_1)) ---
**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/168 "2012-07-11T19:55:43Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > On that note, just found [this interview with Tali](http://cartermatt.com/26261/masterchef-exclusive-interview-tali-clavijo-defends-final-dish/) about his exit from the show. > > Whatever he may lack in cooking skills, he certainly gains back in humility. And total douchebaggery! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/169 "2012-07-11T20:20:15Z")
Tali was definitely getting the loser’s edit this episode. News flash, dude: “New Age” cooking is about creating delicious food in new and interesting ways. All Tali did was make bad food in new and interesting ways. Oh, and urchin innards on a soup spoon has most certainly been done before. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/170 "2012-07-11T22:48:23Z")
I have my DVR set to record these series. But for some reason the shows for 7-10 are not on there. So did they not air last night or did my DVR screw up? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/171 "2012-07-11T22:50:03Z")
No. Baseball was on instead. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/172 "2012-07-11T23:16:43Z")
Merged **Shakes** ’ OP into this thread. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2012, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/173 "2012-07-14T23:47:51Z")
There was never any chance that Tali would win. Our feeble Earth judges just can’t handle his genius. Perhaps the people of his home planet will appreciate him better. I found it interesting, that yet again, people that the mystery box winner was trying to screw over did well, while ones the winner tried to help did poorly. I doubt it’s entirely a fix, because looking at what they actually made, yeah, the people with easy fish had crappy dishes. It’s masterchef, not masturbate, sheesh, it was a funny line, but it didn’t need to be repeated so many times. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/174 "2012-07-17T13:26:13Z")
While I agree that the tall black dude did the worst on the egg challenge, and by rule he had to go, I also agree with him that he should have been the one exempted from the elimination challenge. The exempted woman did no actual cooking unless you count boiling potatoes. She put a rub on the steaks and peeled and diced sweet potatoes, and for that she gets immunity? When the steak station was going to hell, Captain Lipstick immediately started calling for TBD (Josh?) to save the day, and it appears that he did as all the early votes went to the other team, but towards the end, his team made a big comeback, presumably due to his cooking. It certainly wasn’t due to the non-existant sweet potatoes. P.S. Chef Ramsey’s comments as he left seemed to reinforce my feeling. I think this was a case of trying to oust the better competition, and it worked after failing twice in a row. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/175 "2012-07-17T14:14:17Z")
How did Christine not know that you’re supposed to soak ears of corn before roasting them on the grill? I barely cook, but I know that. StG ---
**Author:** ![ministryman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@ministryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ministryman)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/176 "2012-07-17T16:49:49Z")
> [@StGermain](#): > > How did Christine not know that you’re supposed to soak ears of corn before roasting them on the grill? I barely cook, but I know that. > > StG If you _have_ to use the husks, then yes, but I grill mine all the time out of the husk with NO soaking. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/177 "2012-07-17T16:54:51Z")
> [@StGermain](#): > > How did Christine not know that you’re supposed to soak ears of corn before roasting them on the grill? I barely cook, but I know that. Why the fuck would Frank put the blind girl on the grill in the first place?! ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/178 "2012-07-17T17:26:33Z")
On Hell’s Kitchen last night, the red team lost a competition so their punishment involved them having to unload a large amount of food being delivered by truck. I know that these punishments are invented to look good on TV, but doesn’t that restaurant have a back door, and perhaps a loading dock (and maybe a pallet jack)? I mean, the trucks were parked in front of the restaurant, where they were taking stuff off the trucks (without using the liftgate) and then hand carrying the stuff through the entrance into the kitchen. One woman carried a forty-pound bag of ice into the kitchen, where she dropped it directly in front of two large carts that they could have used to move the stuff. And then later, they were grinding really large amounts of peppercorns using a mortar and pestle. Meanwhile one of the guys on the winning team at the waterpark said that he didn’t find the rides they had taken exciting enough, and that he wanted a “poop your pants” ride. That’s not a ride I’d want to be taking in a waterpark. ---
**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/179 "2012-07-17T17:29:03Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I know that these punishments are invented to look good on TV, but doesn’t that restaurant have a back door, and perhaps a loading dock (and maybe a pallet jack)? Or an ice machine? It was seriously ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212/180 "2012-07-17T17:38:43Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > On Hell’s Kitchen last night, the red team lost a competition so their punishment involved them having to unload a large amount of food being delivered by truck. I know that these punishments are invented to look good on TV, but doesn’t that restaurant have a back door, and perhaps a loading dock (and maybe a pallet jack)? No, because it’s not a real restaurant, it’s a TV studio made up to look like a restaurant. The current shooting location is an old soundstage in Culver City, seen [here](https://maps.google.com/maps?q=8660+Hayden+Place,+Culver+City,+CA&hl=en&ll=34.021018,-118.385477&spn=0.002663,0.001725&sll=38.994387,-77.000949&sspn=0.014125,0.013797&oq=8660+Hayden+Place+culver+c&t=h&hnear=8660+Hayden+Pl,+Culver+City,+California+90232&z=19). You can kind of see the “front” of the restaurant from [this street view](https://maps.google.com/maps?q=8660+Hayden+Place,+Culver+City,+CA&hl=en&ll=34.021675,-118.385013&spn=0.007532,0.006899&sll=34.021346,-118.385442&layer=c&cbp=13,208.18,,0,6.68&cbll=34.021686,-118.385139&hnear=8660+Hayden+Pl,+Culver+City,+California+90232&t=h&z=17&panoid=YSD1MP59WT6J22S0dyJdBQ). That said, while there do appear to be loading bays on both sides of the back of the building, that’s probably an area that either the contestants don’t have access to, or those areas are used for something else (another show, maybe?). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hells-kitchen-and-masterchef-summer-2012-open-spoiler/624212.md?page=10)