# Help!  Evil Muslims are out to get meeeeeee! (For Valteron and Perciful)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 25, 2010, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476 "2010-06-25T12:37:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/221 "2010-07-01T17:48:56Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Christians don’t strap bombs onto themselves and blow up innocent people in a market. They don’t fill a truck with explosives and drive it into a grammar school and kill innocent kids.

No, just [federal buildings with daycare centers in them](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing).

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/222 "2010-07-01T18:09:46Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Now, you want bold? Here’s some bold: if you think that the building of this mosque and 9/11 are unrelated events, that they are not “somehow connected”, you are a complete and utter imbecile. And not dealing in reality.

Okay, so in your world, a church that has been in a location in some form or another, since (IIRC) 1983 decides to buy a nearby building, and it’s CLEARLY related to something that happened in 2001? Who’s the imbecile here?

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/223 "2010-07-01T18:18:19Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> No, just [federal buildings with daycare centers in them](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing).

Perhaps he’s never heard of the IRA either. Not that the British Army didn’t also have their moments of stupidity in Northern Ireland.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/224 "2010-07-01T18:22:51Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> No, just [federal buildings with daycare centers in them](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing).

Or [crowded downtown districts.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omagh_bombing) Ironically, given \*\*manhattan’s \*\*comment, detonated on Market Street.

> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Perhaps he’s never heard of the IRA either. Not that the British Army didn’t also have their moments of stupidity in Northern Ireland.

You say “moments of stupidity”, I say state-sponsored anti-Catholic terrorism just as bad as the anti-Protestant terrorism from the IRA etc.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/225 "2010-07-01T18:43:29Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> …You say “moments of stupidity”, I say state-sponsored anti-Catholic terrorism just as bad as the anti-Protestant terrorism from the IRA etc.

Agreed.

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/226 "2010-07-01T18:43:56Z")

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Y’know, my mother-in-law is White, Catholic, Irish, and a close relative of mine. Based on the logic in this thread, statistically I’m probably already dead.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/227 "2010-07-01T19:05:51Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Ohhh, I’m guilty of a thought crime. Thanks. I knew it must be something.  
> And you may want to look up the word “hate”. “Insane”, too. It doesn’t mean “does not agree with you”. :rolleyes:

No, you’re guilty of being unpleasant. Your crap is boring & obvious. You keep repeating it over & over, in hopes that it will make sense. It does not.

**Perciful** is a more obvious loon–read _any_ of her stuff. **Valteron** may have had a fine mind at one time, but he’s succumbed to monomania. You might merely be stupid. Not being a professional in the mental health field, I cannot provide more precise diagnoses.

Your posts “do not agree with me” in the same way that a pile of steaming dog poo offends me. Many of the other folks who post opinions that do not match mine manage not to nauseate me.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/228 "2010-07-01T20:17:51Z")

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> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#):
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> Y’know, my mother-in-law is White, Catholic, Irish, and a close relative of mine. Based on the logic in this thread, statistically I’m probably already dead.

Yeah, that’s about the size of it. Sorry.

I’ll send flowers.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/229 "2010-07-01T20:55:22Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Not quite. My point is that radical Islam poses a threat to us. And since we cannot simply point to those Muslims that are murderous barbarians, or support murderous barbarians, it behooves us to be wary of all Muslims. Pretty straightforward position.

And by that you of course mean nothing in specific. Just general behooving. Vague wariness not transcribing into any viewpoint or measure whatsoever. You wouldn’t even dare implying anything of the sort, and you’re rightfully offended anyone could ascribe such hateful thoughts to you !

Nope, you just leave the definition and specifics of your ascribed wariness to people who, you know, are professional wariers. Those guys know what they’re doing and… well, when all is said and done, \*they \*can take the flak one gets for actually warying.

God, even your arguing style is cowardly.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/230 "2010-07-01T21:21:08Z")

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Still waiting to hear how you’re going to identify these scary, scary Muslims you need to be so careful of. I mean, are you going to count on self-identification? Because the ones who’re trying to kill you probably won’t be too overt about it.

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/231 "2010-07-01T21:23:48Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Still waiting to hear how you’re going to identify these scary, scary Muslims you need to be so careful of. I mean, are you going to count on self-identification? Because the ones who’re trying to kill you probably won’t be too overt about it.

Its easy. They just have to _look_ Muslim.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/232 "2010-07-01T21:24:24Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Still waiting to hear how you’re going to identify these scary, scary Muslims you need to be so careful of. I mean, are you going to count on self-identification? Because the ones who’re trying to kill you probably won’t be too overt about it.

Don’t ask him to worry his beautiful mind with such details. If a security expert says that they need to be rounded up into camps and exterminated, he’ll be just fine with that, as he has indicated above.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/233 "2010-07-01T21:35:29Z")

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> [@Angua](#):
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> Its easy. They just have to _look_ Muslim.

Shit, the last time he was here, my boyfriend and I went to one of the Indian places down the block from my apartment, and I think he ordered something with goat, which is noted in the menu as being halal. That’s probably enough that I should dump him in case he’s a crypto-Muslim.

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/234 "2010-07-01T21:36:34Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Shit, the last time he was here, my boyfriend and I went to one of the Indian places down the block from my apartment, and I think he ordered something with goat, which is noted in the menu as being halal. That’s probably enough that I should dump him in case he’s a crypto-Muslim.

Oh definitely. He’s obviously a crypto-Muslim, or he’s in denial. Dump his ass before he declares jihad on you and your blatantly immoral ways and kills you.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/235 "2010-07-01T21:39:42Z")

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Right now, I’m really wishing we smoked pot so I’d have a good opening for a joke about getting stoned this weekend.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/236 "2010-07-01T21:43:47Z")

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> [@Angua](#):
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> Oh definitely. He’s obviously a crypto-Muslim, or he’s in denial. Dump his ass before he declares jihad on you and your blatantly immoral ways and kills you.

After sewing your crotch up. Muslims do that, dontchernow.

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/237 "2010-07-01T21:44:44Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> After sewing your crotch up. Muslims do that, dontchernow.

Oh but first he’ll force her into a burqa and niqab.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/238 "2010-07-01T22:08:47Z")

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> [@Angua](#):
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> Oh but first he’ll force her into a burqa and niqab.

Order in all things : first, the stoning while buried up to your neck. Then the genital sewing. Then _and only then_, the burqa. If you mix up the steps, it’s just anarchy.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/239 "2010-07-01T22:12:42Z")

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My neighbour taught me that, by the way. He’s seen Muslims on TV once, so he knows what he’s talking about.

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/240 "2010-07-01T22:34:08Z")

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Oh of course, we have to get things absolutely right and to the letter. Anything else is not only anarchy but makes you a filthy infidel that will BURRRRRRRRN in the fires of hell.

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