# Help! Evil Muslims are out to get meeeeeee! (For Valteron and Perciful) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 25, 2010, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476 "2010-06-25T12:37:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/521 "2010-07-14T18:30:46Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > We know with near enough 100% certainty that there is a minority section of the muslim population - let’s call them the FFA, or Fuckwits For Allah - who definitely do want to blow the shit out of people and things, and generally cause as much mayhem as possible. If the muslim community is going to get upset that the wider community wants to investigate some of its members as potential threats to society at large, they need to start establishing a bit of order themselves. If muslims are doing “Stop The Terrorism” rallies, they are not being very well publicised. I can say the same thing about NRA members and I would argue that the average NRA member is more dangerous than the average muslim (and proud of it). I can say much of the same thing about poor people. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/522 "2010-07-14T19:25:15Z")
Okay, would people be so up in arms if an announcement was made along the lines of _“Your children are more at risk from someone they know, than the old guy with the dirty raincoat. Be extra aware of males who have access to your children.”_? That wouldn’t be demanding that anybody be persecuted, it would just be common sense advice to avoid a bad situation. It can’t be bigoted if what you are saying is rational. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/523 "2010-07-14T19:51:45Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > I suspect they’d be surprised. Especially if they are under the impression that they are just “being picked on” for no reason at all, and are therefore even resistant to the idea that their family members might be involved in such activities. Suggesting that the vast majority of American Muslims would be surprised to learn that they knew people involved with terrorism honestly strikes me as a rather vast overreaction as far as numbers go. What percentage of American Muslims would you suspect are involved in terrorism in some way? ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/524 "2010-07-14T20:47:40Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > Okay, would people be so up in arms if an announcement was made along the lines of _“Your children are more at risk from someone they know, than the old guy with the dirty raincoat. Be extra aware of males who have access to your children.”_? That wouldn’t be demanding that anybody be persecuted, it would just be common sense advice to avoid a bad situation. It can’t be bigoted if what you are saying is rational. So we should have a PSA: “_Your children are more at risk from someone they know than the Muslims in the mosque_.” I like it. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/525 "2010-07-15T09:14:04Z")
> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#): > > So we should have a PSA: “_Your children are more at risk from someone they know than the Muslims in the mosque_.” > > I like it. If you altered it to “_Your children are more at risk of getting sexually abused from someone they know than by the Muslims in the mosque, but they are more at risk of getting blown up by the Muslims In The Mosque than by someone they know… unless you know a lot of Muslims._.”, it’d reflect reality a bit better. It is not bigoted to point out that a significant amount of Muslim terrorists spend some of there time in Mosques. Just like it is not bigoted to suggest that those Christians who want to harm doctors who carry out abortions, spend some of their time in churches. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/526 "2010-07-15T09:24:00Z")
> [@Revenant\_Threshold](#): > > Suggesting that the vast majority of American Muslims would be surprised to learn that they knew people involved with terrorism honestly strikes me as a rather vast overreaction as far as numbers go. If you’ve reached late adulthood and not been kept in a protective cocoon, someone you think you know has the potential to be involved in terrorism. Whether it be simple racist fuckwittery like bricking the windows of the local Asian store, or more lethal attempts. > [@Revenant\_Threshold](#): > > What percentage of American Muslims would you suspect are involved in terrorism in some way? Couldn’t put a real figure on it; probably less than the Muslim sub-section that are involved in illegal dog-fighting. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/527 "2010-07-15T12:05:05Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > That’s it. I’m calling a jihad on your ass _right fucking now_. Hordehu akbar ! ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/528 "2010-07-15T12:51:13Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > If you altered it to “_Your children are more at risk of getting sexually abused from someone they know than by the Muslims in the mosque, but they are more at risk of getting blown up by the Muslims In The Mosque than by someone they know… unless you know a lot of Muslims._.”, it’d reflect reality a bit better. Why should the manner of death count? They’re much more likely to be killed by someone they know than Muslims, as well. Unless they know a lot of Muslims. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/529 "2010-07-15T13:26:23Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > It is not bigoted to point out that a significant amount of Muslim terrorists spend some of there time in Mosques. Oh lord, you’re _right_! And they also spend some of their time in grocery stores! _Damn you, Kroger!_ ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/530 "2010-07-15T14:14:07Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Oh lord, you’re _right_! And they also spend some of their time in grocery stores! _Damn you, Kroger!_ First step: We go to Kroger and ask for lists of people who bought food that’s certified hallal. Third step: End terrorism. It’s so simple! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/531 "2010-07-15T14:29:36Z")
Anyone who eats falafel is clearly suspicious for any number of reasons. > [@Kobal2](#): > > Hordehu akbar ! What’s Arabic for “Leeeeeeeeeroy Jenkins!”? ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/532 "2010-07-15T17:36:17Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Hordehu akbar ! Hold that thought–I’m out of iced tea. I need to take a quick hajj down to the store to pick up some more. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/533 "2010-07-15T17:44:32Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Hordehu akbar ! Hordehu_m_. Third person plural. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/534 "2010-07-15T18:37:44Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Hordehu_m_. Third person plural. Are collectives plural in Arabic? Is it consistent across all dialects? (E.g., they’re singular in US English but plural in UK English.) ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/535 "2010-07-15T18:43:00Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Are collectives plural in Arabic? Is it consistent across all dialects? (E.g., they’re singular in US English but plural in UK English.) As far as I can recall, yes. (For people. Groups of inanimate objects are referred to by the third person feminine. Then there’s the case endings, which have been blotted from my memory.) ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/536 "2010-07-16T13:54:03Z")
At least I have chicken. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/537 "2010-08-19T15:52:06Z")
[A very articulate bit of commentary from Keith Olbermann regarding the so-called “Ground Zero mosque.”](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/38731398) Required fucking viewing for you racist dicklicks (and the non-racist people would probably enjoy it, too). ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/538 "2010-08-20T02:22:30Z")
I live outside Dearborn Michigan. It has a population of about 100,000. Over 30 percent are Arabs. They have been here for decades. They are just people. The guy across the street from me was a poet from Iraq. I have known many Arabs for a long time. They are just like any body else. They are as good and as flawed as any other group. Are there a few with dangerous ideas ? Perhaps, but in Michigan we are the home for the white guys who bombed Oklahoma City’s, Murrah building. I don’t hate or distrust Arabs or whites. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/539 "2010-08-20T02:27:36Z")
Well, you’d better start. If one doesn’t get you, the other will. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/540 "2010-08-20T02:46:34Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > We know with near enough 100% certainty that there is a minority section of the muslim population - let’s call them the FFA … who definitely do want to blow the shit out of people and things, and generally cause as much mayhem as possible. Holy shit. The FFA is behind it all. Who knew? Holy shit. All along they’ve been skulking around county fairs spreading their evil ummmm evilness and recruiting more evil people to help spread more evil. And I thought they were just those nice friendly people with the goats and hogs and other farm animals. Holy shit. The FFA is out to get us all :eek: :eek: :eek: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476.md?page=26) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476.md?page=28)