# Help!  Evil Muslims are out to get meeeeeee! (For Valteron and Perciful)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 25, 2010, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476 "2010-06-25T12:37:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/101 "2010-06-25T19:20:26Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> If I remember correctly, **jayjay** is gay. Now, if he is both gay _and_ Jewish, he’s way in front of the line.
> 
> Of course there is no foolproof method. The point is that because there isn’t, and given both the statements and actions of a subset of Muslims, a degree of wariness is not only warranted, but wise.

So should we ahve special airport screening procedures for muslims?

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/102 "2010-06-25T19:21:52Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Whoops! I missed that.
> 
> _plants wolfsbane_

Sigh. There’s intolerance everywhere. ☹

😉

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/103 "2010-06-25T19:39:55Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Absolutely not. I see no reason to fear the average American. But if you define a subset, like Americans who do Meth, or routinely drink and drive, then I can begin to be more fearful of that group. But I’m more fearful of those in a group of which that group is associated with violence, like skin heads, for instance. I’d also be more fearful of going to a 50-Cent concert than a Pat Boone concert, even though the latter is likely to be more painful.

So you think that it is not appropriate to paint all Americans with a brush more appropriate to subgroups of Americans but you think it is OK to paint all muslims with the same brush?

BTW, it is obvious you have spent a lot of time listening to 50 Cent (I wish I could say the same anoput myself but I have a 15 year old nephew who is convinced he is a black gangster).

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**Author:** ![Valgard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Valgard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valgard)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/104 "2010-06-25T19:40:41Z")

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You know who else was an Islamic mullah who blew up the WTC and wanted to build a mosque on ground zero and have an opening day hootenanny on 9/11 to celebrate the bombing of Pearl Harbor and also mutilated women’s genitals and wanted school prayer and forced the IRA to wear burqas and made the banks stop charging interest and was actually born in Kenya but secretly transported to Hawaii in a Colombian drug-smuggling U-boat so that he’d grow up to STEAL THE PRESIDENCY 45 years later and forged his birth certificate and wants to make us all eat falafel and camel for Thanksgiving and was the first person to ever not celebrate Memorial Day and get those kids off my lawn and ohmigod my pants where are my pants?

That’s right.

Hitler.

And I am unanimous in that.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/105 "2010-06-25T19:47:34Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Pssssst. Most Muslims aren’t of European extraction, you loathsome excuse for humanity. You’re treating them differently from the various classes of people you’re comfortable with (i.e., by insisting on treating Muslims as one vast, united class, regardless of individual beliefs or intentions, because you personally can’t tell them apart) because of their Otherness.

[size=“1”]Yeah, but that’s bogotry, not racism. Irrational fear or hatred of gnomes is racism (well deserved but still), irrational fear or hatred of hunters is bigotry (once again, well deserved).

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/106 "2010-06-25T19:48:37Z")

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> [@ivan\_astikov](#):
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> Why can’t the nasty ones wear some kind of distinguishing clothing? It’d be oh so much easier if it was Orthodox Jews causing all the trouble. Or better still, those brightly coloured Hari Krishnas. You’d even be able to see them in the dark.

We could make them wear armbands with little crescents on them. Perhaps we can get them all to live in once place so we can keep a closer eye on them.

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/107 "2010-06-25T20:06:02Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> So should we ahve special airport screening procedures for muslims?

Or is it werewolves. I’m so confused.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/108 "2010-06-25T20:10:34Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> We could make them wear armbands with little crescents on them. Perhaps we can get them all to live in once place so we can keep a closer eye on them.

You can borrow an idea from one of my favorite places in all of history- make them carry papers around with them.

I love 21st century Arizona.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/109 "2010-06-25T20:44:10Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> So should we ahve special airport screening procedures for muslims?

I seem to recall a thread a while back where someone recommended requiring that all passengers step on Koreans as they board.

> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Yeah, but that’s bogotry, not racism. Irrational fear or hatred of gnomes is racism (well deserved but still), irrational fear or hatred of hunters is bigotry (once again, well deserved).

I’m saying he’s \*specifically \*scared of \*this \*group because they’re mostly brown people. As opposed to, say, freaking out about the IRA.

> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> You can borrow an idea from one of my favorite places in all of history- make them carry papers around with them.
> 
> I love 21st century Arizona.

Maybe we can just get all the illegals we round up condensed into a single area. We could call it a Condensation Park! And then since it’s silly to have them just sitting there, we could probably come up with something for them to do. In fact, I hear these illegals are all lazy and just get welfare all the time, so maybe we could post some kind of motto to encourage them. Hrm, how about "Labor Releases You "? We could put it in big letters, right over the gate.

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/110 "2010-06-25T20:47:25Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Maybe we can just get all the illegals we round up condensed into a single area. We could call it a Condensation Park! And then since it’s silly to have them just sitting there, we could probably come up with something for them to do. In fact, I hear these illegals are all lazy and just get welfare all the time, so maybe we could post some kind of motto to encourage them. Hrm, how about "Labor Releases You "? We could put it in big letters, right over the gate.

You know who else had this idea?

Me.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/111 "2010-06-25T20:48:32Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> I seem to recall a thread a while back where someone recommended requiring that all passengers step on Koreans as they board.

Only the Koreans whose backs need to be cracked.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/112 "2010-06-25T20:51:34Z")

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> [@Valgard](#):
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> Hitler.

What a BASTARD! :eek:

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/113 "2010-06-25T20:55:20Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Maybe we can just get all the illegals we round up condensed into a single area. We could call it a Condensation Park! And then since it’s silly to have them just sitting there, we could probably come up with something for them to do. In fact, I hear these illegals are all lazy and just get welfare all the time, so maybe we could post some kind of motto to encourage them. Hrm, how about "Labor Releases You "? We could put it in big letters, right over the gate.

You mean like Sheriff Joe’s Tent City?

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/114 "2010-06-25T21:18:33Z")

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So I’ve been thinking, what \*\*was \*\*the worst part of 9/11? [I made a poll.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=568546)

> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#):
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> Me.

Cite?

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**Author:** ![Valgard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Valgard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valgard)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/115 "2010-06-25T21:26:05Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> What a BASTARD! :eek:

And this just in, he also got ACORN defunded and spilled oil all over the Gulf Of Mexico, just like those infernal Muslims.

Honestly, it’s like Satan’s Swiss Army Knife - does everything evil.

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/116 "2010-06-26T00:42:17Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> So should we ahve special airport screening procedures for muslims?

Yep, but he won’t tell you how to identify them, other than pass out pictures of the 9/11 terrorists and tell the security agents “they look like these guys”, all of whom look completely different from one another.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/117 "2010-06-26T02:42:04Z")

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[“Saddest thing about 9/11” poll thread re-created](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=568577). Original was a clusterfuck because I phrased the poll question as the opposite of the thread title, so people were responding inconsistently. Go ahead and vote again in the new one; sorry for not proofing that better the first time.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/118 "2010-06-26T04:41:23Z")

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> [@Shot From Guns](#):
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> Maybe we can just get all the illegals we round up condensed into a single area. We could call it a Condensation Park! And then since it’s silly to have them just sitting there, we could probably come up with something for them to do. In fact, I hear these illegals are all lazy and just get welfare all the time, so maybe we could post some kind of motto to encourage them. Hrm, how about "Labor Releases You "? We could put it in big letters, right over the gate.

I’d rather we call them Freedom Zones.

[QUOTE=DMC]  
Yep, but he won’t tell you how to identify them, other than pass out pictures of the 9/11 terrorists and tell the security agents “they look like these guys”, all of whom look completely different from one another.   
[/QUOTE]

Actually, wasn’t \*\*magellan01 \*\*the brain trust who came up with the idea of forcing everyone wishing to board a plane to step on a Koran, because Muslims would _obviously_ refuse to do it ?

Failing that, we could always train Muslim sniffing dogs, I suppose.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/119 "2010-06-26T05:04:58Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Actually, wasn’t \*\*magellan01 \*\*the brain trust who came up with the idea of forcing everyone wishing to board a plane to step on a Koran, because Muslims would _obviously_ refuse to do it ?

No, that was the late but unlamented [**Silverstreak Wonder**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11970408&postcount=18).

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/120 "2010-06-26T06:52:25Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Absolutely not. I see no reason to fear the average American. But if you define a subset, like Americans who do Meth, or routinely drink and drive, then I can begin to be more fearful of that group. But I’m more fearful of those in a group of which that group is associated with violence, like skin heads, for instance. I’d also be more fearful of going to a 50-Cent concert than a Pat Boone concert, even though the latter is likely to be more painful.

Given that you are motivated by logic and not a base irrational fear of people who are not of your culture, I assume you go nowhere near your father and brothers without a bulletproof jacket and a bodyguard, seeing as how they are far and away the most likely subset of people likely to kill you.

Right? Right?

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