# Help!  Evil Muslims are out to get meeeeeee! (For Valteron and Perciful)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 25, 2010, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476 "2010-06-25T12:37:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/141 "2010-06-26T17:16:35Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> I mean this in the nicest way possible–you (and magellan01, in this thread already) are not NEARLY close to the heights of frothing insanity that Perciful and Valteron can hit.

Well that’s not very nice at all. That’s like saying we are lay slackers. If you aren’t frothing, then your heart isn’t in it.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/142 "2010-06-26T17:32:59Z")

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Yes haters are correct. The Muslims have been in America with thousands of troops , blowing up our infrastructure, killing our people and bribing our warlords. They deserve to be hated. They keep trying to change our government into a Muslim friendly and horribly corruptible one. Yes. I see why we are mad at them.

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/143 "2010-06-26T17:58:38Z")

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> [@Rune](#):
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> Well that’s not very nice at all. That’s like saying we are lay slackers. If you aren’t frothing, then your heart isn’t in it.

Try toothpaste. The dog always thinks I have rabies when I get a good toothpaste froth going, and he’s a dog, he should know.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/144 "2010-06-26T18:47:44Z")

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> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#):
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> Neither.
> 
> Actually, I liked the guy, so it would have been a compliment if anything, but in fact it was merely that the f-ing book was mentioned, and I had already noted in my mind that you had arrived just as AT had left. A complete decryption would be:
> 
> \*Hogg. \*  
> Where is **Argent Towers** to blah blah about Hogg?  
> **Argent Towers** is gone.  
> No one will blah blah about \*Hogg. \*  
> Wait, isn’t there a new guy who showed up just when **AT** left?  
> Wouldn’t it be funny if he were really **Argent Towers** and he started talking about _Hogg_?  
> Hee Hee.  
> That is funny, I shall post it.
> 
> Can we consider this dead horse beaten?

So what you’re saying is that you compared me to another poster?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/145 "2010-06-26T19:44:51Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> No, that was the late but unlamented [**Silverstreak Wonder**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11970408&postcount=18).

Ah, my mistake. Apologies. It’s just that, while we don’t have that many blithering xenophobes, the ones we do got are really crackerjack to a man - so I tend to lump them in a big ol’ pile of generic contempt.

> [@Attack from the Third Dimension](#):
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> I’ve been trying to teach **Attackdog** the Four Noble Truths and the Eightfold path, and I don’t really think he’s getting it. Although, to be fair, he’s cool with the lack of possessions and the begging. Y’know that Zen story where the leper’s thumb falls in the beggar’s bowl? He’d have no problem. I doubt he’d do as well with Islam though, especially the dietary restrictions, since he’ll fight like hell to eat a old piece of ham that he finds in the grass.

I am now totally picturing doggy burkas.

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> Anyway, we already have \*\*Angua, \*\*so assuming that she can sniff, we have our own Muslim sniffing werewolf!

Well, yeah, but she can only sniff during That Time Of The Month. The rest of the time, she’s just a girl. Nobody wants a random girl sniffing 'em up at the airport.

Nobody outside the Internet, I mean.

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/146 "2010-06-26T20:07:13Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> So what you’re saying is that you compared me to another poster?

No **Melon** , there’s nobody like you. You are…incomparable. 😃

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/147 "2010-06-27T11:16:41Z")

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> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#):
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> No **Melon** , there’s nobody like you. You are…incomparable. 😃

Now what’s all this about a horse?

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2010, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/148 "2010-06-28T14:37:51Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> Are you more likely to be killed by a Muslim or a family member?
> 
> Survey says!
> 
> Family member!

Muslims with families are just generally fucked, of course.

> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> Band name?

Would not go see. Even if they were Japanese.

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2010, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/149 "2010-06-28T14:39:32Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Well, yeah, but she can only sniff during That Time Of The Month. The rest of the time, she’s just a girl. Nobody wants a random girl sniffing 'em up at the airport.
> 
> Nobody outside the Internet, I mean.

You don’t? Damn. So that’s what I’ve been doing wrong!

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2010, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/150 "2010-06-28T14:46:40Z")

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It should be noted that **Kobal** speaks for only a limited subset of men.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2010, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/151 "2010-06-28T14:46:42Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> Now what’s all this about a horse?

What’s the best cheese in which to hide a horse?

Mascarpone.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/152 "2010-06-29T09:58:44Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> I am now totally picturing doggy burkas.

“Barkas”, surely?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/153 "2010-06-29T10:21:29Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> “Barkas”, surely?

Get out.

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**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/154 "2010-06-29T11:06:15Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> The point, friend, is that some Muslims DO want to kill us but until you have a fool-proof way cull the evil-trying-to-kill-us ones from the peaceful ones, it behooves us—or those of us who would like to not be killed or have those we cared for killed—to be wary of the whole lot.
> 
> Got it now, friend?

Got it. Adjusting my attitude to Christians right now.

Hey - Christians - sorry - some of you probably don’t abuse children but you know - it’s really, really hard to separate the wheat from the chaff.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/155 "2010-06-29T12:34:16Z")

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Hey, magellan! You do know that there are some Christians who want to kill other Christians, don’t you? What’s your foolproof way to cull them out?

Here’s my experience with Muslims: I served with Muslims in the United States Navy. The ones with whom I served love their country–that’s the US–and all it stands for. They were no less brave than any of the other Sailors on our ship. And the supported the Constitution of the United States, something you evidently do not.

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**Author:** ![Doughbag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Doughbag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doughbag)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/156 "2010-06-29T14:05:40Z")

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I got a text message yesterday, regarding the reasons why Muslim terrorists are so suicidal, so here are somelinks:

[Link 1](http://bastisays.info/2010/01/everyone-seems-to-be-wondering-why-muslim-terrorists-are-so-quick-to-commit-suicide/)  
[Link 2](http://iranpoliticsclub.net/islam/anger-islam/index.htm)  
[Link 3](http://www.solopassion.com/node/5653)

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/157 "2010-06-29T14:47:22Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> And the supported the Constitution of the United States, something you evidently do not.

But it’s so inconveeeeeeeeeeeeenieeeeeeeeeent. :(:(☹

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/158 "2010-06-29T14:50:42Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> And the supported the Constitution of the United States, something you evidently do not.

Hey! Don’t you know it’s not a suicide pact?! 😃

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/159 "2010-06-30T04:34:30Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Hey, magellan! You do know that there are some Christians who want to kill other Christians, don’t you? What’s your foolproof way to cull them out?

Foolproof? Why is this suddenly the metric for public policy? Should we not have gun laws because they will not be 100% effective? Should we not take measures to prevent speeding, drunk driving, tax fraud even though we know that whatever we put in place will not be “foolproof”? This is the same kind of odd thinking that prevents us from building a fence on our southern border…because a 30-foot fence can be breached by a 31-foot ladder.

Do you insist on foolproof measures in any of these instances? Or any instances involving public policy at all?

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-evil-muslims-are-out-to-get-meeeeeee-for-valteron-and-perciful/544476/160 "2010-06-30T04:53:22Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Foolproof? Why is this suddenly the metric for public policy? Should we not have gun laws because they will not be 100% effective? Should we not take measures to prevent speeding, drunk driving, tax fraud even though we know that whatever we put in place will not be “foolproof”? This is the same kind of odd thinking that prevents us from building a fence on our southern border…because a 30-foot fence can be breached by a 31-foot ladder.
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> Do you insist on foolproof measures in any of these instances? Or any instances involving public policy at all?

You introduced the notion of needing foolproof way to identify “bad” Muslims from “good” Muslims with the only other option to be “wary” of all of them.

Now you are introducing the aspect of “public policy.”

It is clear that if you do not have a similar public policy to propose for being wary of Christians, you are displaying blatant inconsistency on two separate issues.

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