Help from vegetarians, please !

I was born in a vegetarian family and remain so.

The one major concern that most people have is the lack of proteins ina vegetarian diet. One of the biggest protein contributors in a veggie’s diet is lentils. I am surpised that no one who has been recommending you Indian food has talked about this.

Just walk into the nearest Indian grocery store (there should be at least one in any decent sized city in world - we Indians are everywhere:) Ask for “DAL”. There are more 10 varieties available and make for a great accompaniment with rice or bread. Take a small cupful of any one and rinse it out in water, add some water until immersed in about 1.5" and cook it until soft. Season wil salt after cooking.

Now you need to get your hands on a Indian cookbook (Indian friends are better; Indian friends with moms are even better) and find out how to treat the dal after that. If you want some recipes, lemme know and I could send you some detailed ones… (I love cooking)

Cheers

mmm… dal…

Iceberg lettuce has almost no nutritional value whatsoever. I’ve got a cite here about some scientists who are trying to engineer it so it contains nutrients. Yes, people will tell you that iceberg lettuce has a handful of B vitamins, but you can get almost 3 times the amount of vitamins with the same serving size of romaigne lettuce. Iceberg lettuce is crap in a wrapper.

I’ve also been told that iceberg lettuce contains either high amounts or a type of cellulose that humans can’t digest. I’m afraid I can’t prove this either way.

Otto, I like that “filthy polyester of the lettuce world” remark.

Potatoes and broccoli: I’ve usually got a side of mashed potatoes and a side of boiled broccoli. Sometimes I’ll mix 'em together and pour cheese over the whole thing.

If you like soups, you’re nearly all set. I usually make a big pot for dinner one night a week and then have leftovers for lunch a few of the rest of the days.

Corn chowder
Bean soups (Black/Navy/Pinto/mixed bean)
Minestrone
Potato
Vegetable
Carrot
Roasted Garlic (yum!)

I find soups are a good way to combine a lot of different veggies and grains in one big serving. (Plenty of soup recipe books out there!)

A lot of Mexican dishes can be vegetarian by just leaving the meat out, fajitas, quesadillas, burritos, etc.

I tried the portobella mushroom substitute in fajitas, and found the texture so disgusting I couldn’t eat them. Am I doing something wrong? I don’t really like soy either, so I try to concentrate on making great tasting meatless meals instead of meals with meat substitutes.

A great dish I think I invented myself:

8oz cooked Penne pasta
1/2 to 1 C spinach (to taste)
1 15oz can white beans
Pesto to taste

Yum!

Roasted Garlic Soup? That sounds…like something I need!!

Recipe, s’il-vous plait?

When I went vegetarian, I hardly had to change my eating habits at all…the only thing that took getting used to was that I usually have one big dish of food rather than various dishes in a single meal. Works for me though…less dishes to clean up.

I don’t know much about veganism, but I do know that any ovo-lacto vegetarian that eats a reasonably varied diet will have no trouble getting proper nutrients. In order to get protein definciantcy you’d have to seriously try.

What do I eat? Same things that anyone else eats, sans meat. I am a busy college student so most of my meals run towards no-fuss and cheap, so it should be right up your ally.

I eat lots of pasta. I usually keep dried pasta, frozen cheese ravioli and jarred pasta sauce on hand. Sometimes I will make up a big batch of marianara and freeze some, so that I can enjoy yummy sauce whenever I want. I will also occasionally do prepared pesto sauce. I also eat too much mac and cheese for my own good.

Mexican food. Cheese enchiladas, burritos, veggie fajitas. Just about any mexican recipe can be altered not to include meat. Granted the main attraction to me is that it is often smothered in cheese. I also buy lots of frozen bean burritos for lunches and stuff.

I do some Indian food, but much of it is too time intensive for me. Oftentimes I’ll cheat and use boil-in-a-bag Indian meals (called tasty bites…you can get them online at http://www.tastybites.com) over brown rice. Yum.

Occasionally I’ll do stir-fry or ramen based dishes. I’m not to good at it though, so I don’t do it much.

Soup. I practically live off soup. Ministrone, split pea, lentil, vegetarian chili, black bean, potato, plain old veggie soup…it is all so wonderful. I usually make a big pot and eat half and freeze half. I also eat lots of canned soup and chili, but you have to watch out because almost all of it has chicken or beef stock in it. Another great thing about soup is you can serve it over rice and have twice the meal for half the cost. Another fun thing is to make vegetarian chili dogs, with fake hot dogs (you can even omit those all together and just spoon chili over a bun and smother it with onions and cheese).

Beans and rice. There are a million variations, and they are all insanely good for ya. Beans cook really quickly in a pressure cooker, or you could just cheat and used canned beans, which I do quite often. Usually when I make beans I pour in some canned tomato sauce and work from there. I know you don’t like beans much, but it would do you a great service if you learned to like some preparations of them, as they are infinatly cheap and infinatly flexible.

Oh yeah, sandwiches. I make the best mozzerella-tomato-basil sandwiches in the world. Grilled cheese is also a favorite. Finally, I am addicted to Morningstar farms chick patties, and on a near-daily basis I have a chick-patty/mustard sandwhich.

Occasionally I will get fancy and make veggie pot pies, or stuffed zucchini or something elaborate, but that is pretty rare. Most of the time I eat one-pot meals that take half an hour to cook, and utilize plenty of canned and frozen food. Maybe not the ideal way to eat, but I am pretty healthy and certainly a lot healthier than I would be on a fast-food diet. I really do reccomend that you make a trip to a natural foods store, though. The vast array of products availible will blow your mind and please your stomach.

Good luck!

Pasta with various sauces
mexican stuff (beans, cheese, rice, etc… just about anything can be made in a vegetarian version)
chinese stuff…

Think of things you like to eat, then remove or replace the meat. I often replace meat with mushrooms, especially in sauces.

PIZZA!

I have been a vegetarian all my life. I eat A LOT of Tofu, but since that isn’t your thing, pasta is always good. It is so versitile. Since you don’t like beans, you will need a good source of protien. My doctor suggests nuts. They have a lot of protien, and you can throw a few in almost anything.

This isn’t necessarally true. My mom is vegetarian and my father isn’t, and it has worked beautifully. They have been together for 25 years, and my mom has never once had a problem with it.

I am not currently a vegetarian, but I did spend some time as a vegetarian a couple of years back. (Mostly just to prove to myself I could and when I found I could, the experiment was complete.) One of the dishes my partner and I made somewhat frequently was what we called “beans and rice” though that wasn’t entirely accurate.

We stared with sauteeing (spelling?) some aromatics in either water or a teensy bit of olive oil. The aromatics changed each meal depending on what was available and what we were in the mood for. Usually it included a mixture of onions, shallots, and garlic. (Did you know that in some stores you can buy frozen pre-diced onions!) Once those were cooked we would add other veggies like peas or corn or diced peppers. Mushrooms were also a frequent addition. Once the veggies were on the way to being cooked we would add a can or two of black beans, which in our humble opinion were the most flavorful and tasty variety we had tried. If we were really prepared, we might have actually cooked beans the night before, which would have been better, but canned beans were alright.

In the meantime, we cooked a couple of servings (or more) of rice. Pick a variety, you’ll never get bored! Jasmine was a favorite, American wild rice was quite nice, and plain ol’ minute rice does in a pinch (though it makes most nutrional vegetarians wince ;-). Once the rice is done and the bean mixture is heated through, serve the rice on a plate and smother with the bean mixture. Top with cheese if desired (real stuff or tofu), and enjoy.

Of course stir frys are also easy to make, especially if you keep pre-cut veggies in the fridge. Add your favorite sauce at the end of the cooking (Teriyaki, soy, ginger-sesame, and we tried some orange juice based sauces a couple of times), and you’re good to go.

Neither of these dishes is fancy or difficult to make. Both of htem provide you with okay to great nutritional value depending on what you throw in, and since there is no set recipe, you can make different food each time you make it.

Hope that helps,
JOhn.

Not true, at all. I know of several veggie/non-veggie relationships (and am in one myself) where it is not even an issue. Unless you plan on marrying an asshole meat eater that secretly dumps lard in your meals or you are marrying a meat eater who has had both their arms lobbed off and is incapable of preparing meat for themselves it should not be a problem. Honestly, if your relationship can be impared by the fact that you ocassionally eat different things as meals you have a lot more problems than being vegetarian.

A lot of non-veg people seem to think that becomeing vegetarian is a life altering decision akin to getting a sex change or something. It isn’t. 99% of the time it is exactly the same as your old life. It is a lot less drastic of a change as people think. Don’t let them freak you out.

What everyone else said.

I’d also like to recommend vegsource.com, which I beleive is the largest veggie site on the internet. On their veganism message board people have daily “food logs” in which they submit a list of what they’ve eaten today. You might get some meal ideas from that. And I know that there are several Aussie vegetarians at the vegsource boards, and they should be able to give you some advice about what sort of things are available.

Also, check out The New Farm Vegetarian Cookbook which I have found enormously useful. It’s full of tasty, wholesome recipes with simple ingredients.

Absolutely! I go through a 5 pound bag of potatoes every week (when the rent’s not due). I love to do stir-fries too; it’s really easy to cut up two green peppers and an onion (and whatever else is sitting around: carrots, broccoli, apples, etc), fry 'em in a bit of olive oil and serve them over rice or pasta. Today for dinner I dumped a can of french-cut green beans in a frying pan and, once the water had evaporated, threw in a cup of cooked instant rice and a dash of maple syrup. Mmmmm, quick and tasty. Vegetarianism is easy, just vary your meals and it’s pretty easy to get all required nutrients.

Frozen vegetables (bell peppers, broccoli, cauliflower, green beans) marinated in lemon-pepper marinade for a couple hours, then stir-fried with rice.

Fried rice, period. Awesome stuff. Lentils can be mixed in quite well, along with different types of rice.

Vegetable soup; the fastest kind to make is a bag of frozen vegetables, a big can of spaghetti sauce, some water, and salt to taste. Can be eaten with a spoon or with freshly warmed bread smeared with herbed garlic butter…

I grew up in a household where the standard way of cooking vegetables was “add to a pot of water, boil until tender, add salt and butter, serve.” My mom doesn’t seem to believe in spices, just the flavors of the food itself. When I discovered that I really like broccoli’s texture, I just hate the taste, a whole new world of teriyaki sauce opened up.

Corr

I think China Guy’s advice may have been directed at people who want to be vegetarian but still feel tempted to eat meat. In that case, it would be harder to stick to a vegetarian diet when living with a meat-eater. Personally, I don’t have a problem with this because I don’t crave or miss the taste of meat at all. But I know I would never have been able to give up smoking if my boyfriend smoked, so I can imagine it could be hard for some people to give up meat with a spouse who likes nothing more than a juicy steak…

China Guy is saying that one partner being a vegetarian and one partner being a carnivore can be a real stressor. Especially if the carnivore is the one that does most of the cooking. Especially, if you live somewhere where it is difficult to order vegetarian in restaurants. Especially if it’s group dining both at home and in restaurants (chinese style). Especially if there are just two of you.

I was a vegetarian for 10 years. A strict vegan type diet (I never bought into the vegan mind set) for a few of those years. Added seafood to my diet when I lived in Japan as there aren’t a lot of veggies there.

It became a stressor among other stressors in our marriage. I made a big gesture to show that my marriage meant a lot more to me than being a vegetarian. And it did. I wish I was still a veg, but practically speaking in my relationship that’s not really an option. Maybe we have a fucked up relationship. Maybe it’s something deeper. Regardless, we were having some serious problems and I wanted to do all I could to save our marriage. One of the things I did was start eating meat so that our meals could be incorporated in the home and in restaurants. That was 4 years and one child ago.

I definitely know what you mean, China Guy. Since moving to France, I decided to start eating fish since being fully vegetarian (and I don’t mean vegan) makes eating out a virtual impossibility here. And I hate to be the spoilsport whose inability to eat anything on the menu means searching for a different café or restaurant in the pouring rain. Chinese restaurants are indeed the most guilt-inducing because people like to share dishes and are dismayed to find out that vegetarians really don’t eat any kind of meat. (“But you eat chicken, don’t you? No? Not even prawns? How about shrimp?”)

“Vegitarian Cooking for Everyone” by Deborah Madison
is a very good book.

also, a lot of Mexican food is Veggie or can be made as such.

D’oh!
make that:

Vegetarian Cooking…

Here ya go!

http://www.agoron.com/~susang/mwlpcreamgarsoup.txt

(It’s from the recipes of Dr. John McDougall, which are very low-fat and vegan. If you run a quick Google search you can find some recipes that are no doubt tastier/richer because they employ creams, eggs, or butter, if you’re open to using those.)

More soups from McDougall’s page:

http://www.agoron.com/~susang/page4.htm

Does anyone else think Portabella mushrooms have a FUNGUSey texture? I don’t think they resemble meat at all. I’ve never liked mushrooms though, so I guess I’m just out of luck on that front.

IANAV. In fact, I’m a dedicated carnivore. However, I have some suggestions for you (some are repeats):

The Moosewood Cookbooks: If you are buying The Moosewood Cookbook(the original), then I highly suggest you purchase the “25th Anniversary” edition instead of the original edition (if you can find it). The original was very heavy into fats and eggs and cream, etc. The new edition is more moderate, and better reflects the way we eat today. I’ve cooked out of both, and the new edition is much better.

Indian Food: Oh, golly. I love Indian Food. I’ll second the recommendatin for Tasty Bites. Tasty Bites are great and oh-so-convenient. I love 'em.

Middle Eastern Food: There are so many wonderful vegan middle-eastern dishes. A lot of them, like hummus and falafel, have “hidden” beans, so you can eat your beanies! And baba ghanoush is just fun to say. Baba ghanoush!

Pad Thai: Thai food is great in general, but Pad Thai is in a class by itself! There are a million ways to make it. I like mine with some scrambled egg and peanuts in it. Very very satisfying.

Fritattas: I do love a good frittatta. Makes a very hearty and nutritious and filling dish. Also good for cleaning out your fridge.

Vegetarian Times Magazine: This is an excellent general-interest vegetarian magazine. It has both vegetarian and vegan choices. It also has a lot of very quick-and-easy recipes. I will share with you a favorite of mine:

Sesame Noodles and Kale

Boil some spaghetti* in a lot of water.
When it is just a couple of minutes done, put in a whole bunch of shredded kale. You will have to shove it into the pot to get it under water.
Let it boil for a couple of minutes and then drain the spaghetti and kale.
Season with dark-roasted sesame oil, sesame seeds, and soy sauce.

*You can use any kind of long noodle you want. I like plain old spaghetti best, though.

Good luck!