# Help gun nuts describe their views

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-gun-nuts-describe-their-views/726873>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 3, 2015, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-gun-nuts-describe-their-views/726873 "2015-08-03T11:36:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-gun-nuts-describe-their-views/726873/101 "2015-08-06T12:22:25Z")

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Now I’m boarding a flight from Kabul and ultimately back to DC. See you Friday.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-gun-nuts-describe-their-views/726873/102 "2015-08-06T13:23:37Z")

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Looks like we should consider putting tighter restrictions on who can enter a movie theater. No axes or pellet guns at a minimum.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-gun-nuts-describe-their-views/726873/103 "2015-08-06T13:37:43Z")

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> [@Omar\_Little](#):
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> Looks like we should consider putting tighter restrictions on who can enter a movie theater. No axes or pellet guns at a minimum.

it is probably always best to tackle problems as far downstream as possible. We should have background checks for movie goers.

I would have thought your postion would be that we need to address obesity before movie theater shootings. Because the number of people killed in movie theaters is really quite small. I think more people are shot in kindergarten classrooms than in movie theaters. So, it should go: 1) obesity and spoons, 2) screenings of movie goers, 3) background checks on kindergartners, 4) pools, 5) knives, 6) alcohols, and then, if there is time, maybe guns. Oh wait, buckets. Buckets should go in at #7. No, hammers. Alcohols, then hammers, then buckets, then maybe guns.

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-gun-nuts-describe-their-views/726873/104 "2015-08-06T14:43:18Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> This fear has prevented us from having reasonable gun laws…

If your on the gun control side of the debate here in the U.S. you should really stop using the word “reasonable” in reference to gun control because your side has consistently proven you have no idea what that means.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-gun-nuts-describe-their-views/726873/105 "2015-08-06T14:45:56Z")

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> [@Bruce\_Wayne](#):
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> If your on the gun control side of the debate here in the U.S. you should really stop using the word “reasonable” in reference to gun control because your side has consistently proven you have no idea what that means.

Yeah, like consistent background checks! How is that even reasonable? !?!?

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-gun-nuts-describe-their-views/726873/106 "2015-08-06T14:55:08Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> it is probably always best to tackle problems as far downstream as possible. We should have background checks for movie goers.
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> I would have thought your postion would be that we need to address obesity before movie theater shootings. Because the number of people killed in movie theaters is really quite small. I think more people are shot in kindergarten classrooms than in movie theaters. So, it should go: 1) obesity and spoons, 2) screenings of movie goers, 3) background checks on kindergartners, 4) pools, 5) knives, 6) alcohols, and then, if there is time, maybe guns. Oh wait, buckets. Buckets should go in at #7. No, hammers. Alcohols, then hammers, then buckets, then maybe guns.

You have a really hard time understanding sarcasm don’t you?

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-gun-nuts-describe-their-views/726873/107 "2015-08-06T15:16:24Z")

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> [@Omar\_Little](#):
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> You have a really hard time understanding sarcasm don’t you?

No u.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-gun-nuts-describe-their-views/726873/108 "2015-08-06T17:51:47Z")

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> [@Bruce\_Wayne](#):
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> If your on the gun control side of the debate here in the U.S. you should really stop using the word “reasonable” in reference to gun control because your side has consistently proven you have no idea what that means.

Pretty standard gun nut stuff: when presented with the facts they have a fact-free meltdown.

Hey look, I have no problem with hunters or even adults who like to blow up shit in the desert. I just think that drug addled toddlers shouldn’t be able to buy stock up on carbines at your nearest criminally inclined gun show and that support for such policies is limited to those who aren’t firing in all cylinders. If you don’t want to be laughed at, remove the clown nose.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-gun-nuts-describe-their-views/726873/109 "2015-08-06T18:26:00Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> No u.

:rolleyes: I know you are, but what am I? Really?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-gun-nuts-describe-their-views/726873/110 "2015-08-06T18:34:10Z")

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You’re rubber, he’s glue.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-gun-nuts-describe-their-views/726873/111 "2015-08-06T19:37:23Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> Actually he has the opposite problem. If he had sufficient levels of natural testosterone, he wouldn’t be desperately trying to augment with guns and bluster. “Look at how manly I am” isn’t something you hear from people who actually are.

“Tonight, you pukes will sleep with your rifles. You will give your rifle a girl’s name, because this is the only pussy you people are going to get. Your days of finger-banging ol’ Mary-Jane Rottencrotch through her pretty pink panties are over! You’re married to this piece. This weapon of iron and wood. And you will be faithful. Port, hut!”

My rifle’s name is Charlene. 🙂

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-gun-nuts-describe-their-views/726873/112 "2015-08-06T19:56:40Z")

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What do you call your gun?

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-gun-nuts-describe-their-views/726873/113 "2015-08-06T20:55:54Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> You’re rubber, he’s glue.

Nobody works that particular angle harder than you do, chickenshit. The hilarious part is that, every time you use it, you congratulate yourself for delivering a devastating riposte.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-gun-nuts-describe-their-views/726873/114 "2015-08-07T03:17:48Z")

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I’d like to point out that banning spoons has the added benefit of completely eliminating heroin use.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-gun-nuts-describe-their-views/726873/115 "2015-08-07T16:44:38Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> I have no idea what his point is, his post was asinine. My point is that white fear drives ou gun culture; specifically, irrational fear of savage blacks. This fear has prevented us from having reasonable gun laws, allowing gun violence to run rampant in the U.S.

Moronic point. Moronic projective reasoning. And I am sure people who own non registered guns responded in the affirmative to that poll, or people who just didnt want to admit having guns.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-gun-nuts-describe-their-views/726873/116 "2015-08-11T14:06:18Z")

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Question for the gun fetishists, if it’s not for the absence of gun control laws in the US, why does America have such high rates of gun violence as compared to other industrialized nations?

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-gun-nuts-describe-their-views/726873/117 "2015-08-11T14:38:03Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> Question for the gun fetishists, if it’s not for the absence of gun control laws in the US, why does America have such high rates of gun violence as compared to other industrialized nations?

The number of people who are willing to violate gun laws whether they exist or not.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-gun-nuts-describe-their-views/726873/118 "2015-08-11T14:39:20Z")

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The “law-abiding citizens” we hear so much about?

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-gun-nuts-describe-their-views/726873/119 "2015-08-11T14:41:43Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> The number of people who are willing to violate gun laws whether they exist or not.

I didn’t realize that America was unique in having criminals. I’m pretty sure that there are criminals in Europe who seem very willing to break all kinds of laws, why don’t they have the gun violence we have in the US?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-gun-nuts-describe-their-views/726873/120 "2015-08-11T17:36:58Z")

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> [@pool](#):
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> For the record I’m pro second amendment but I also believe that as long as you are a legal adult you own your self and have a right to self-determination and yes ultimately a right to die. Seems a little disingenuous to say you want to get rid of guns to stop suicide when I thought most liberals support a right to die.

Supporting a right to die means supporting the right of an adult to take a considered, arm’s length decision to off himself, with appropriate medical safeguards to ensure that the adult is of sound mind and not suffering from mental illness, intoxication or some other health issue that affects decisionmaking.

Nobody - even in Eugene - is demanding that you should be able to walk into a hospital and say, “I’m here, doc, bump me off in five minutes.”

The thing about suicide is that it very rarely occurs as a result of the sort of considered choice that the right to die encompasses.

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