# Help Hillary by giving her a great debate zinger

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 20, 2016, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444 "2016-09-20T14:50:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/21 "2016-09-20T16:50:10Z")

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Oh, please, please, don’t deploy the tighty-righty sense of humor! C’mon, play nice, at least give us a _chance!_

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**Author:** ![Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pearl_Clutching_Provocateur)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/22 "2016-09-20T17:01:55Z")

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“Mr. Trump, do you renounce and condemn Pepe?”

“Yes, I hope he croaks. Rim shot please!”

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/23 "2016-09-20T17:06:17Z")

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No, he’ll think Pepe the Frog is a wetback.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/24 "2016-09-20T17:16:31Z")

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Despite my earlier post, it probably is not a good idea for Hillary to attempt zingers. She’ll need a couple of good comebacks for certain Trump talking points but just keep them on point and boring.

And despite PCP contributions, I’ve not noticed Trump to be that great with the comedic riffing. Mostly his comebacks are in the vein of a poor man’s Don Rickles and I didn’t even find the real Rickles very amusing.

Eta: holy crap, Don Rickles is still alive! And working!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/25 "2016-09-20T17:17:45Z")

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All the qualities of a rattlesnake, but lacks the warmth.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/26 "2016-09-20T17:23:08Z")

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Mr Trump, how will your overseas investments affect your foreign policy decisions?

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/27 "2016-09-20T17:26:18Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Eta: holy crap, Don Rickles is still alive! And working!

Holy E crap seconded.

If I was even a remotely rich/famous/powerful person Rickles would be my worst nighmare.

That dude is/was brutal.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/28 "2016-09-20T17:35:23Z")

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Donald: “Your husband got a blow job.”

Hillary: “Your three wives tell me your dick is so teensy that they always have to fit two big black guys in there along with you to get a proper mouthful.”

Now, the question is, do Trump supporters get turned off by the revelation of his tiny dick, or do they empathize? And get kind of turned on by the image of sharing with two big naked black guys?

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**Author:** ![Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pearl_Clutching_Provocateur)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/29 "2016-09-20T17:41:37Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> Mr Trump, how will your overseas investments affect your foreign policy decisions?

“How dare you bring my wives into this debate!”

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/30 "2016-09-20T17:50:17Z")

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“I want America to know that, if Mister Trump is elected president, I will be at his disposal; he can call on me for advice whenever he wants, as often as he wants.”

[This is where he maybe interrupts to say that’ll be never. But maybe he doesn’t.]

“And if I’m elected President, I’d like to know whether he’ll be available to give me advice, for the good of the nation; could I consult with you, at need, as an expert?”

[How does he respond?]

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**Author:** ![Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pearl_Clutching_Provocateur)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/31 "2016-09-20T17:57:25Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> “I want America to know that, if Mister Trump is elected president, I will be at his disposal; he can call on me for advice whenever he wants, as often as he wants.”

“Thank you Secretary Clinton. After the debate, I’ll get the phone number of your nursing home.”

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/32 "2016-09-20T17:59:42Z")

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That one registered at 240 millihicks. _Mallard Fillmore_ averages about 300.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/33 "2016-09-20T18:10:47Z")

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> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#):
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> “Thank you Secretary Clinton. After the debate, I’ll get the phone number of your nursing home.”

That’s what I was hoping for: on live national television, she gets to look like authentic across-the-aisle statesmanship, doing the whole country-before-party thing instead of going for a cheap zinger – and he looks like a man in his seventies, responding with a weird joke about a woman in her sixties. That’s _gold!_

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/34 "2016-09-20T18:12:52Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Walk onstage munching from a bag of Skittles. Offer him some.
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> Walk onstage, pretend to collapse. Yell “Help! I’ve fallen, and I can’t get up!” Laugh, get up, tear him a new one.

She needs to do a [Wonka roll](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz9jc5blzRM#t=1m20s).

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/35 "2016-09-20T18:30:39Z")

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\*If you truly know how to defeat ISIS, why on earth haven’t you told anyone? How many more people have to die? \*

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/36 "2016-09-20T18:36:50Z")

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Asked and answered: he doesn’t want to tip his hand, give them a chance to prepare. 'Course, if he could be declared President by acclamation, start tomorrow morning…

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/37 "2016-09-20T18:37:27Z")

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Cheap zingers isn’t her style and won’t work.

Needling him and raising his weak points, that’s potentially effective. “Donald, why won’t you release your tax returns? What are you hiding?” is not technically a “zinger” but it hurts. He has no really good way of responding.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/38 "2016-09-20T18:40:41Z")

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Why should he respond? He doesn’t have to, he can just start in talking about something else entirely, his base eats that with a spoon! You keep thinking like its a debate, he isn’t going to debate.

Still think he’ll bail, but if he shows, it won’t be to debate.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/39 "2016-09-20T18:40:49Z")

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I suspect the problem with most Hillary zingers are that Trump CAN comeback with a zinger of his own that hurts her about the same topic.

And for that matter, most Trump zingers that might get Hillary can be responded by her the same way.

IMO BOTH candidates live in some seriously glass houses…

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/40 "2016-09-20T19:44:04Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Unless the timing and execution are JUST right IMO any zinger Hillary sends will probably backfire.

You get it. Hillary’s idea of a joke is stuff like [“Pokemon Go to the polls”](https://youtu.be/vwaiyjh1dGk) or [“Cautious Politician time.”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rzt0p97ngg) That’s with preparation. She’s not good speaking off the cuff. This is more Obama’s territory (imagine that debate).

> [@JohnGalt](#):
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> - I know how much I earned last year, how much I paid in taxes, and how much I gave to charities. (turn to Trump) I earned more than you, paid more in taxes than you, and gave more to charities than you. Prove me wrong by releasing your tax returns.

That’s really bad. Trump would just start talking about her unreleased speech transcripts and deleted e-mails.

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