# Help Hillary by giving her a great debate zinger **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 20, 2016, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444 "2016-09-20T14:50:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/141 "2016-09-29T21:52:30Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Because you know Clinton was ready for him to say it, ready to contrast his total classlessness with her classiness. Its true: to the discerning eye, there was a definite “Crass Distinction”. 😃 > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Oh where are you, **Staving Artist** , to regale us with tales of Donald’s debating superiority? I’ve missed you! You should be Ashamed! As a Rule, NEVER bait the angry, the bull-headed, or the partisan political hack into an irrational political debate. By all means, _ **Let Them Come To You** _. (…Say, is it too late to suggest this to Hillary’s camp…?) 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/142 "2016-09-29T23:02:35Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Trump: Yeah you stayed the course. Are you saying that a woman whose husband cheat on her still has some sort of commitment to her husband? C’mon! You didn’t stay with Bill because you’re committed to marriage, you stayed with bill because your political ambitions would have die right there if you left Bill Clinton. Everybody knows it and the more you try to deny it the more uncomfortable you look. If you are going to lie as much as you do, you should at least try not to be so bad at it. I mean your lies are so transparent that even people that are voting for you think you’re a liar. This is true. Just look at the polls. YUUUGE. This is indeed a terrible idea and would be a devastatingly stupid thing for Trump to say, but I don’t think it’s exactly his style of stupid thing to say. There is no demographic who would be significantly moved toward him by hearing a philanderer chastise a woman for being cheated on or for her reaction to that cheating. There is a significant demographic–married women–who are likely to be moved away from him by hearing that. The more he engages in this sort of hypocrisy, the better for Clinton. I hope he tries something very similar to your suggestion, only in his own words, because it’ll continue his downward trajectory. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/143 "2016-10-12T00:13:05Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > Here’s the zinger… > > “[Politico](http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/2016-donald-trump-fact-check-week-214287) studied your public statements last week and found that you spoke a falsehood about every three minutes and fifteen seconds on average. You are impressively ahead of that pace tonight.” I’m digging this thread up to toot my own horn. > [@](#): > > “PolitiFact said that he was the most untruthful candidate they’d ever evaluated,” Clinton said aboard her plane. “And we sort of did the numbers, I think they said he was 70 percent untruthful. And so I think he exceeded that percentage tonight.” [Link](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/oct/10/clinton-trump-absolute-avalanche-falsehoods/) ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/144 "2016-10-12T01:15:42Z")
Personally, I was hoping that she would come to second debate wearing one of those chastity belts with spikes under the crotch that the women were wearing in Mad Max. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/145 "2016-10-12T02:22:09Z")
Lance Turbo, you rock! ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/146 "2016-10-24T19:00:21Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > You guys might find it comforting to think some clever line is gonna devastate The Donald and help Hillary, but Trump is absolutely going to wipe the floor with her. He’s gonna bring up lie after lie after lie. He’s gonna bring up Bill’s endless stream of girlfriends and assault victims and Hillary’s participation in or going along with the portrayal of them as bimbos, and then lambaste her for having the audacity to call herself the woman’s candidate. He’s gonna bring up her health and long history of blood clots and fainting and concussions and special eyeglasses and how much she’s aged just since she ran against Obama eight years ago. He’ll probably also bring up allegations of her saying some form of “Fuck you or Fuck off” to her protectors in the Secret Service and Arkansas Highway Patrol and heighten her image as an ill-tempered, unlikeable bitch on wheels. Plus lots of other stuff I have no idea of. > > Hillary Clinton very likely has nightmares about these debates. And she should. Did **Starving Artist** ever respond after the debates about this post? I’d love to hear what he thinks now. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/147 "2016-10-24T20:34:59Z")
He thinks that if Trump had gone with the plan **SA** outlined he’d be doing a lot better in the polls now. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/148 "2016-10-24T20:38:51Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > He thinks that if Trump had gone with the plan **SA** outlined he’d be doing a lot better in the polls now. 😃 > [@George Burns](#): > > Too bad that all the people who know how to run the country are busy driving taxicabs and cutting hair. 🙂 Seriously, I think your plan is about the only plan that could have made him do even worse than he did. Spending all his time talking about Clinton’s special eyeglasses? What’s next, calling her a lizard-person? Delving into the depths of alt-right conspiracy theory world is **not** a winning strategy. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/149 "2016-10-24T20:49:56Z")
All his time talking about her glasses? I do not think this is an accurate description of my former prediction, most of which is based on fact, btw, and not ‘conspiracy theory’. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/150 "2016-10-24T20:59:32Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > All his time talking about her glasses? > > I do not think this is an accurate description of my former prediction, most of which is based on fact, btw, and not ‘conspiracy theory’. Fair enough–I should have said “her glasses and similar trivia that only is worth talking about if built into a conspiracy theory framework.” ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/151 "2016-10-24T21:00:41Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > All his time talking about her glasses? > > I do not think this is an accurate description of my former prediction, most of which is based on fact, btw, and not ‘conspiracy theory’. That’s where you went wrong. Trump does not deal in facts. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444/152 "2016-10-24T22:27:06Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > He thinks that if Trump had gone with the plan **SA** outlined he’d be doing a lot better in the polls now. 😃 Good on you for coming back, but I think you’re still deluding yourself. Trump has no discipline or ability to _not_ hurl random “wrong” and “nasty woman” type insults and interjections, and no ability to _not_ be baited by the very predictable references to prior bad behavior with women like Alicia Machado, and all of this was eminently predictable and should have been obvious to anyone paying attention. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-hillary-by-giving-her-a-great-debate-zinger/766444.md?page=7)