Help! I must out debate my husband: topic 'Global Warming'

I like this resource:

How to talk to a climate skeptic.

CO2 is constantly cycled in and out of the atmosphere, in huge amounts. It takes months to years to maybe a couple of centuries for CO2 taken out of the atmosphere by plants to be put back in via rotting, burning, etc. This CO2 is more or less in balance, what goes out each year in plant growth is put back by plant decay.

The CO2 that humans put into the atmosphere has been out of the cycle for an awfully long time. It wasn’t going anywhere, it was going to sit quietly underground. We have chosen to remove it, burn it, and put all that CO2 back into an atmosphere that did without it for 200 million years. The only way to permanently remove THAT CO2 from the atmosphere is to have a permanent increase in the amount of solid plant matter or some other permanent solid form of carbon, like calcium carbonate.

Here’s a site which directly refutes State of Fear.

So, I’ll be like a wife/ninja then? I think I can make this work! :slight_smile:

George Kaplin,
Thank you! I’ve bookmarked it!

What Exit?,
The Great Debates has been a great help, not only for the threads themselves, but for the links also! Lots to read! (Though, the threads can be a bit disheartening as well).

Interesting read, thank you! (Especially some of the reader comments at the bottom when it appears the author of the article responds to refute - but probably only I find it interesting!) :wink:
Cheesesteak:
That lays out the situation concisely. Thank you as well!

For a few previous Doper responses (not in MPSIMS), consider:
Anyone else have a problem getting worked up about global warming?
Is there a media bias supporting anthropic global warming?
Why is anthropomorphic global warming so difficult to prove?
Michael Crichtons State of Fear
climate change in our lifetime

What is your husbands stance on the Loch Ness Monster? :dubious:

“-Of the 186 billion tons of CO2 that enter earth’s atmosphere each year from all sources, only 6 billion tons are from human activity. Approximately 90 billion tons come from biologic activity in earth’s oceans and another 90 billion tons from such sources as volcanoes and decaying land plants.”
And since the amount produced by human activity is increasing rapidly, it actually matters.
“-At 368 parts per million CO2 is a minor constituent of earth’s atmosphere-- less than 4/100ths of 1% of all gases present.”
Which means precisely jack-shit, as it is far more effective at retaining heat than everything else combined.

Pulling up this old thread to give updates and more thanks! :slight_smile:

The debate with my husband is basically over as he pulled the, ‘I’m too busy to discuss this anymore’ card (though he did tell me ‘well done’!) So…we’ll ‘drop it’, yep we’ll drop it until he starts talking about it again and then I’ll pounce! (Being that I’m evil and don’t just drop arguments because someone doesn’t feel like talking about it beyond telling me what *they * think I’ve saved my main points (with handy links and graphs!) to thus keep myself fresh on the subject!)grin

Plus, I’ve received “Collapse, How Societies Choose To Fail or Succeed”, and am excited to dig into it (having only started to read about the two farms), so this should keep the mind in arguing mode!

tomndebb:
I did look in your threads and found them helpful! The thread that helped me the most from Great Debates was this one.

Surprisingly, the link that I found the most useful regarding actually arguing with him was George Kaplin’s link: How to talk to a climate skeptic.. It was amazing - every argument he made - they had a section explaining the situation. With charts! And even better with links so I could figure out where the charts came from and then read up on the linked sites! I highly recommend it!

Captain Carrot:
I noticed that in many of the arguments he presented - he was basically giving data that actually has no relevance tothe discussion at hand to thus cloud and confuse the issue. Quite frustrating!

Shirley Ujest: He says he doesn’t believe, but I have my suspicions on the situation… :wink: