# Help ID 2 movies **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 25, 2008, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-id-2-movies/465120 "2008-09-25T04:25:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![FordTaurusSHO94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f07891/32.png) [@FordTaurusSHO94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordTaurusSHO94)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2008, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-id-2-movies/465120/1 "2008-09-25T04:25:04Z")
I haven’t seen either of these movies in a long time and wouldn’t mind being able to find them. When I was 9 or so, there was this movie I saw on tv a couple of times that always scared me. It was a woman in a Santa Claus mask and what I think was her family wearing various masks and they kidnapped a bunch of children. At the end, the children managed to build punji sticks to get away, I believe. The second movie I saw twice when I was 14 on HBO in 1997. I could swear the movie was called Crimespree, but that never brings up anything related. It was a black and white movie with no talking, but it wasn’t silent. It had sound effects and all that. I think it started with a criminal escaping from a cop car and running loose and it set off a chain of events that eventually relate and come back to the criminal. I remember thinking it was funny both times I saw it. Anyone know the names of these? ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2008, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-id-2-movies/465120/2 "2008-09-25T04:31:29Z")
> [@FordTaurusSHO94](#): > > I haven’t seen either of these movies in a long time and wouldn’t mind being able to find them. > > When I was 9 or so, there was this movie I saw on tv a couple of times that always scared me. It was a woman in a Santa Claus mask and what I think was her family wearing various masks and they kidnapped a bunch of children. At the end, the children managed to build punji sticks to get away, I believe. Australian, with Rachel Ward - [Fortress](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091069/) ---
**Author:** ![FordTaurusSHO94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f07891/32.png) [@FordTaurusSHO94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordTaurusSHO94)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2008, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-id-2-movies/465120/3 "2008-09-25T04:37:50Z")
Thanks! I’ve wondered that for about 16 years. Now for the second one.