# Help identify movie/show based on scene

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**Created:** [May 17, 2016, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identify-movie-show-based-on-scene/754950 "2016-05-17T00:58:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identify-movie-show-based-on-scene/754950/1 "2016-05-17T00:58:04Z")

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I clearly remember this scene from the HBO show Rome:

Caesar is riding his chariot into the Triumph with his face painted red, with some dude (probably a slave) sitting behind him holding a wreath over his head while incessantly whispering to him sentiments like “You are just a man. You are not a god.” etc…

I just now\* finished watching a marathon of all 22 episodes of the show (which included two different Triumphs) but the whispering thing never happened. Everything else about Caesar’s Triumph is exactly how I remembered, except the whispering.

Did I hallucinate this? Or did I mix up the memory with some other Ancient Rome show or movie? Maybe Gladiator, with Russell Crowe?

\*Clearing off space from the DVR, I recorded all 22 episodes last August when HBO ran a marathon. It took me nine months to get around to watching it, but holy shit was that worth it. Such a great show; even better than I remember it.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identify-movie-show-based-on-scene/754950/2 "2016-05-17T01:28:27Z")

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I’ve never seen Rome, but googling your quote I see that (at least the way you phrased it) it’s based on a bible quote (Ezekiel 28-9), but I can’t seem to find it in a movie.  
How about 300 or Ben Hur?

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identify-movie-show-based-on-scene/754950/3 "2016-05-17T01:32:02Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> I’ve never seen Rome, but googling your quote I see that (at least the way you phrased it) it’s based on a bible quote (Ezekiel 28-9), but I can’t seem to find it in a movie.  
> How about 300 or Ben Hur?

Based on my memory, I’m thinking it was from something I saw in or around the mid-2000s. That’s why I’m thinking maybe Gladiator. Ben Hur is right out, but 300 isn’t a bad guess.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identify-movie-show-based-on-scene/754950/4 "2016-05-17T02:07:49Z")

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If you google your quote and let autofill do it’s thing you’ll get some variations of it. Since it seems to be based on a bible verse you probably didn’t make it up, but if you play around with it you might be able to figure it out. OTOH, even using some keywords I couldn’t come up with.

It wasn’t “come back with your shield…or on it” was it?. I know, I know, totally different but it’s got the same sort of weight to it and it’s the only line I remember from 300. (and it was when they were going off to war, not winning a chariot race).

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**Author:** ![Arizona\_Mike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7cd45c/32.png) [@Arizona\_Mike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arizona_Mike)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identify-movie-show-based-on-scene/754950/5 "2016-05-17T02:42:56Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> I clearly remember this scene from the HBO show Rome:
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> Caesar is riding his chariot into the Triumph with his face painted red, with some dude (probably a slave) sitting behind him holding a wreath over his head while incessantly whispering to him sentiments like “You are just a man. You are not a god.” etc…
> 
> I just now\* finished watching a marathon of all 22 episodes of the show (which included two different Triumphs) but the whispering thing never happened. Everything else about Caesar’s Triumph is exactly how I remembered, except the whispering.
> 
> Did I hallucinate this? Or did I mix up the memory with some other Ancient Rome show or movie? Maybe Gladiator, with Russell Crowe?
> 
> \*Clearing off space from the DVR, I recorded all 22 episodes last August when HBO ran a marathon. It took me nine months to get around to watching it, but holy shit was that worth it. Such a great show; even better than I remember it.

Rome was an amazing show.

Been years since I’ve seen it, but could it have been Quo Vadis (1951)? I remember a scene of Caesar’s Triumph.

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**Author:** ![Arizona\_Mike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7cd45c/32.png) [@Arizona\_Mike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arizona_Mike)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identify-movie-show-based-on-scene/754950/6 "2016-05-17T02:44:53Z")

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And of course, it was referenced at the end of Patton with George C. Scott’s poignant voice-over narration.

“For over a thousand years Roman conquerors returning from the wars enjoyed the honor of triumph, a tumultuous parade. In the procession came trumpeteers, musicians and strange animals from conquered territories, together with carts laden with treasure and captured armaments. The conquerors rode in a triumphal chariot, the dazed prisoners walking in chains before him. Sometimes his children robed in white stood with him in the chariot or rode the trace horses. A slave stood behind the conqueror holding a golden crown and whispering in his ear a warning: that all glory is fleeting.”

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**Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identify-movie-show-based-on-scene/754950/7 "2016-05-17T03:21:45Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> If you google your quote and let autofill do it’s thing you’ll get some variations of it. Since it seems to be based on a bible verse you probably didn’t make it up, but if you play around with it you might be able to figure it out. OTOH, even using some keywords I couldn’t come up with.

Unfortunately I don’t remember the actual words, just the sentiment. I found it interesting, and I think I remember reading a thread here on the dope about it and someone commenting on it. Since I don’t generally participate in movie threads (I wait for cable) I figured it was Rome, but no.

> [@Arizona\_Mike](#):
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> A slave stood behind the conqueror holding a golden crown and whispering in his ear a warning: that all glory is fleeting.”

Repeatedly whispering “all glory is fleeting” would totally fit my memory.  
More info if it helps: As a general rule I greatly prefer modern movies, so it very likely is no older than late 90s for release date.

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**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identify-movie-show-based-on-scene/754950/8 "2016-05-17T03:40:14Z")

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Rome, season 1, episode 10.

> **[HBO Rome – Doma Sacra](https://titarufiaprisca.wordpress.com/category/hbo-rome/)**
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> Posts about HBO Rome written by tlryder

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**Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identify-movie-show-based-on-scene/754950/9 "2016-05-17T04:15:24Z")

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> [@Poysyn](#):
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> Rome, season 1, episode 10.
> 
> [HBO Rome | Doma Sacra](https://titarufiaprisca.wordpress.com/category/hbo-rome/)

Well, as I said in the OP, I just watched all 22 episodes of Rome, and the whispering wasn’t in it.

You can see for yourself on youtube: [Caesar’s Triumph](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuHaDtkOCEQ). (His chariot scenes start at [2:37](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuHaDtkOCEQ&t=2m37s).)

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**Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identify-movie-show-based-on-scene/754950/10 "2016-05-17T16:31:13Z")

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From _History of the World: Part I_

Court Spokesman: [whispering in his ear] Remember, thou art mortal! Remember, thou art mortal! Remember, thou art mortal! Remember, thou…

Marcus Vindictus: [whispering] Oh, blow it out your ass!
