# Help identify old console game from early 2000s

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**Category:** The Game Room\
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**The Ancient Art of War** (1984) is often cited as one of, if not the, first “true” RTS games. I played the crap out of that game back in the day. **War at Sea** was even better.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/huAb9i1OSEY/hqdefault.jpg "Ancient Art of War gameplay (PC Game, 1984)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huAb9i1OSEY)

A good argument could be made for **Cytron Masters** (1982; also has many elements of a Tower Defense game):

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/9D-z3dQwxcg/hqdefault.jpg "Cytron Masters for the Apple II") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D-z3dQwxcg)

or Utopia (1981):

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/LaFkpKhOuyk/hqdefault.jpg "Let's Play Utopia [Intellivision]") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaFkpKhOuyk)

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