# Help Identify this tank **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [October 1, 2024, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identify-this-tank/1008342 "2024-10-01T17:21:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identify-this-tank/1008342/1 "2024-10-01T17:21:59Z")
[1983 E Kilgore Rd - Google Maps](https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2450661,-85.5553052,3a,24.8y,190.89h,92.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgvIN1F5VhQfA5Sa8h7HJ9A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205409&entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MDkyOS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D) M-60 or an M-48? ---
**Author:** ![sb1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@sb1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sb1953)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identify-this-tank/1008342/2 "2024-10-01T17:24:04Z")
I am fairly certain that is an M-60. I built the Plastic model of it when I was like 12 years old. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identify-this-tank/1008342/3 "2024-10-01T17:28:31Z")
M60, number of track support rollers. [![](https://i.etsystatic.com/14821011/r/il/6027d1/1404840083/il_1140xN.1404840083_bhvm.jpg) ](https://i.etsystatic.com/14821011/r/il/6027d1/1404840083/il_1140xN.1404840083_bhvm.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identify-this-tank/1008342/4 "2024-10-01T18:37:27Z")
M60A0 SN1963; RN9B5304 [http://the.shadock.free.fr/The\_USA\_Historical\_AFV\_Register.pdf](http://the.shadock.free.fr/The_USA_Historical_AFV_Register.pdf) page 151 ---
**Author:** ![FrenchDunadan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frenchdunadan/32/5449_2.png) [@FrenchDunadan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FrenchDunadan)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identify-this-tank/1008342/5 "2024-10-01T19:01:12Z")
M-60. I was trying to find the correct term(" track support rollers" đŸ˜”â€đŸ’«) And the muzzle too is different on the M-48. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identify-this-tank/1008342/6 "2024-10-01T22:40:47Z")
As shown on @smithsb’s excellent recognition slide, the turret on an M-60 is real short with no aft overhang. Which make it look older (or more Russian) than the predecessor M48. ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identify-this-tank/1008342/7 "2024-10-02T11:57:37Z")
No guessing involved now. It’s an M-60. Thanks all. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identify-this-tank/1008342/8 "2024-10-02T13:48:05Z")
Easier way is to notice the flat glacis plate. The M48 series had a curved/rounded one. But
 the early M60s had the same turret shape as the M48s did (the later ones are pretty distinctive), so it’s stuff like the glacis shape and return rollers that are how they’re identified. ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identify-this-tank/1008342/9 "2024-10-02T14:33:20Z")
For further reference, the video “chats” on the two models from the Tank Museum youtube channel: [M60](https://youtu.be/s5avIoIbQWc?feature=shared) [M48](https://youtu.be/Fo-u51pqlrg?feature=shared) ---
**Author:** ![DorkVader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@DorkVader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DorkVader)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identify-this-tank/1008342/10 "2024-10-02T17:14:05Z")
@FrenchDunadan Quick-n-dirty, looking at Smithsb picture of tanks, from front to rear:1st wheel is idler/tension wheel, on the bottom are 6 road wheels and on top are the idler/support rollers and lastly is the drive sprocket. The rear overhang thing on a turret @LSLGuy referred to is called the bustle