# Help identifying a country from some obscure "facts" **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [July 14, 2008, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identifying-a-country-from-some-obscure-facts/456423 "2008-07-14T12:51:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bravo\_Romeo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@Bravo\_Romeo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bravo_Romeo)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identifying-a-country-from-some-obscure-facts/456423/1 "2008-07-14T12:51:42Z")
I read a _Madison_ magazine last year, and it featured an article about a small country that I think was a dictatorship. I can remember three things: [ul] [li]It was a “-stan” country[/li][li]The “dictator” had banned beards on men [?][/li][li]The “dictator” influenced a television station into running a game show all about himself, with questions like “Who is the greatest leader”, etc. geared at promoting him/his family[/li][/ul] Thanks Dopers. ---
**Author:** ![WormTheRed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bbe5ce/32.png) [@WormTheRed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WormTheRed)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identifying-a-country-from-some-obscure-facts/456423/2 "2008-07-14T12:56:40Z")
My guess is the delightful [Saparmurat Niyazov](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saparmurat_Niyazov) from Turkmenistan. He did all those things mentioned, but hed did die last year though, so maybe it’s someone else? ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identifying-a-country-from-some-obscure-facts/456423/3 "2008-07-14T13:01:10Z")
[QUOTE=WormTheRed] My guess is the delightful [Saparmurat Niyazov](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saparmurat_Niyazov) from Turkmenistan. [/QUOTE] My guess too. Nyazov did ban beards (and long hair) and shamelessly promoted himself and his family. ---
**Author:** ![Bravo\_Romeo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@Bravo\_Romeo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bravo_Romeo)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identifying-a-country-from-some-obscure-facts/456423/4 "2008-07-14T13:04:45Z")
Ah yes! That’s it. Come to think of it it may have been 2006 when I read the article, or even an old magazine. I had almost reached the stage where I convinced myself I had dreamed of this wonderful country. ---
**Author:** ![WormTheRed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bbe5ce/32.png) [@WormTheRed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WormTheRed)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identifying-a-country-from-some-obscure-facts/456423/5 "2008-07-14T13:20:06Z")
I especially liked the huge golden statue that rotated, so that the sun would always shine on his face 🙂 Something I’m definitely gonna do when I become the dictator of some unknown backwater country… ---
**Author:** ![MikeS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MikeS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeS)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identifying-a-country-from-some-obscure-facts/456423/6 "2008-07-14T14:43:36Z")
[QUOTE=clairobscur] My guess too. Nyazov did ban beards (and long hair) and shamelessly promoted himself and his family. [/QUOTE] The best example of this “shameless promotion” of his family was when he renamed the month of April after his mother. If you ever read the comic strip “Doonesbury”, the character of Trff Bmzklfrpz (the dictator of Berzerkistan) is loosely based on him. ---
**Author:** ![Desert\_Nomad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desert_nomad/32/177_2.png) [@Desert\_Nomad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desert_Nomad)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identifying-a-country-from-some-obscure-facts/456423/7 "2008-07-14T16:39:38Z")
Having been to Turkmenistan, I can assure you it is a very weird place… pictures of the Leader everywhere (though it may well be changing now that he is gone). I think only North Korea is possibly more bizarre. ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identifying-a-country-from-some-obscure-facts/456423/8 "2008-07-14T19:06:28Z")
How very Caligulan! Did he marry within the family as well? ---
**Author:** ![WormTheRed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bbe5ce/32.png) [@WormTheRed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WormTheRed)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identifying-a-country-from-some-obscure-facts/456423/9 "2008-07-14T19:42:47Z")
Nah… and he didn’t even arrange to have his son put in his place when he passed. So just a self-absorbed totalitarian. ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identifying-a-country-from-some-obscure-facts/456423/10 "2008-07-14T20:14:19Z")
[QUOTE=Desert Nomad] Having been to Turkmenistan, I can assure you it is a very weird place… [/QUOTE] Ain’t that the truth. I’m pretty sure I was the first doper in (back in '97). Very, very weird place. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identifying-a-country-from-some-obscure-facts/456423/11 "2008-07-14T20:27:21Z")
My favorite wacky dictator. He had a sense of unhinged, shamelessly narcissistic fun that the Pol Pots, Maos, Hitlers and Kim Jong Ils of the world just didn’t (or don’t). ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identifying-a-country-from-some-obscure-facts/456423/12 "2008-07-14T20:31:16Z")
[QUOTE=WormTheRed] I especially liked the huge golden statue that rotated, so that the sun would always shine on his face 🙂 Something I’m definitely gonna do when I become the dictator of some unknown backwater country… [/QUOTE] I believe the sun followed the great leader, rather than the great leader rotated to follow the sun. Weird weird place, but some great food and beer. ---
**Author:** ![T\_SQUARE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@T\_SQUARE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/T_SQUARE)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identifying-a-country-from-some-obscure-facts/456423/13 "2008-07-14T22:14:35Z")
He also closed down all the hospitals outside the capital, reasoning that sick people could just go to the Ashgabat for treatment. ---
**Author:** ![WormTheRed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bbe5ce/32.png) [@WormTheRed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WormTheRed)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identifying-a-country-from-some-obscure-facts/456423/14 "2008-07-14T22:15:52Z")
[QUOTE=NaturalBlondChap] I believe the sun followed the great leader, rather than the great leader rotated to follow the sun. Weird weird place, but some great food and beer. [/QUOTE] Naturally. I do apologize for my lack of clarity. ---
**Author:** ![Can\_Handle\_the\_Truth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Can\_Handle\_the\_Truth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Can_Handle_the_Truth)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identifying-a-country-from-some-obscure-facts/456423/15 "2008-07-15T04:11:34Z")
Could he be trying to imitate [Peter the Great](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_the_Great)? [QUOTE=Wikipedia] Peter’s visits to the West impressed upon him the notion that European customs were in several respects superior to Russian traditions. He commanded all of his courtiers and officials to cut off their long beards – causing his Boyars, who were very fond of their beards, great upset – and wear European clothing. Boyars who sought to retain their beards were required to pay an annual beard tax of one hundred rubles. [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identifying-a-country-from-some-obscure-facts/456423/16 "2008-07-15T05:21:35Z")
[QUOTE=WormTheRed] I especially liked the huge golden statue that rotated, so that the sun would always shine on his face 🙂 [/QUOTE] So what did he do on cloudy days? Were the clouds subject to some government punishment? ---
**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identifying-a-country-from-some-obscure-facts/456423/17 "2008-07-15T05:55:24Z")
[QUOTE=WormTheRed] I especially liked the huge golden statue that rotated, so that the sun would always shine on his face :). [/QUOTE] The problem was at night, when the statue had to bend down to face the sun through the earth. Thus displaying the moon. ---
**Author:** ![Desert\_Nomad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desert_nomad/32/177_2.png) [@Desert\_Nomad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desert_Nomad)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identifying-a-country-from-some-obscure-facts/456423/18 "2008-07-15T09:53:16Z")
[QUOTE=Tapioca Dextrin] Ain’t that the truth. I’m pretty sure I was the first doper in (back in '97). Very, very weird place. [/QUOTE] I was there in early June 1998… and was (according to the chief of the border post) the first American to cross into Iran overland there. After a week in Turkmenistan, arriving in Mashad, Iran was like heaven. The stores had things on the shelves (imagine that!) 😉 Iran had (and still has) good food, good infrastructure and generally happy people… Turkmenistan had none of this… but Turkmenistan does have one of the nicest looking flags of any country. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-identifying-a-country-from-some-obscure-facts/456423/19 "2008-07-15T15:47:24Z")
I was there on and off through '04 '05. Things (from a consumer goods point of view) were better. Plenty of new construction, (including an Olympic swimming pool for the supreme ruler father of the turkmens, horses) and there did not seam to be a shortage of food. We ate good food in many local restaurants. A couple of our guys headed out to a gas field down on the Iranian boarder, reports were, there was bugger all there.