# Help idnetifying this hex game

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [December 23, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-idnetifying-this-hex-game/845303 "2019-12-23T19:47:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-idnetifying-this-hex-game/845303/1 "2019-12-23T19:47:42Z")

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So this was one of those games that came in a zip lock at the compleat strategist back in the day. I want to say it was a Steve Jackson game because it was basically car wars but with space ships you had ships from frigates to superdreadnaughts that you would build based on ships that has a limited amount of space for propulsion, armor, weapons, shields.

It was played on a hex map and was turn based.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-idnetifying-this-hex-game/845303/2 "2019-12-23T20:56:36Z")

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Ogre is the closest game to what you describe that was from Steve Jackson but it involved futuristic ground combat, no ships involved. Otherwise it wasn’t from that publisher.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-idnetifying-this-hex-game/845303/3 "2019-12-23T22:23:20Z")

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Starfleet battles? Except you didn’t build your own ships (at least I don’t think so), and it didn’t come in a ziplock bag (as far as I know)  
But maybe if you google “games like Starfleet Battles” something may register (I tried but nothing obvious to me)

Brian

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-idnetifying-this-hex-game/845303/4 "2019-12-23T22:35:04Z")

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[Here’s BoardGameGeek’s list of every single Science Fiction game with a hex map published between '79 & '89.](https://boardgamegeek.com/geeksearch.php?action=search&advsearch=1&objecttype=boardgame&q=&include%5Bdesignerid%5D=&geekitemname=&geekitemname=&include%5Bpublisherid%5D=&range%5Byearpublished%5D%5Bmin%5D=1979&range%5Byearpublished%5D%5Bmax%5D=1989&range%5Bminage%5D%5Bmax%5D=&floatrange%5Bavgrating%5D%5Bmin%5D=&floatrange%5Bavgrating%5D%5Bmax%5D=&range%5Bnumvoters%5D%5Bmin%5D=&floatrange%5Bavgweight%5D%5Bmin%5D=&floatrange%5Bavgweight%5D%5Bmax%5D=&range%5Bnumweights%5D%5Bmin%5D=&colfiltertype=&searchuser=&range%5Bminplayers%5D%5Bmax%5D=&range%5Bmaxplayers%5D%5Bmin%5D=&playerrangetype=normal&range%5Bleastplaytime%5D%5Bmin%5D=&range%5Bplaytime%5D%5Bmax%5D=&propertyids%5B%5D=1016&propertyids%5B%5D=2026&B1=Submit) See if anything looks familiar.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-idnetifying-this-hex-game/845303/5 "2019-12-27T03:50:17Z")

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> [@N9IWP](#):
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> Starfleet battles? Except you didn’t build your own ships (at least I don’t think so), and it didn’t come in a ziplock bag (as far as I know)  
> But maybe if you google “games like Starfleet Battles” something may register (I tried but nothing obvious to me)
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> Brian

> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> [Here’s BoardGameGeek’s list of every single Science Fiction game with a hex map published between '79 & '89.](https://boardgamegeek.com/geeksearch.php?action=search&advsearch=1&objecttype=boardgame&q=&include%5Bdesignerid%5D=&geekitemname=&geekitemname=&include%5Bpublisherid%5D=&range%5Byearpublished%5D%5Bmin%5D=1979&range%5Byearpublished%5D%5Bmax%5D=1989&range%5Bminage%5D%5Bmax%5D=&floatrange%5Bavgrating%5D%5Bmin%5D=&floatrange%5Bavgrating%5D%5Bmax%5D=&range%5Bnumvoters%5D%5Bmin%5D=&floatrange%5Bavgweight%5D%5Bmin%5D=&floatrange%5Bavgweight%5D%5Bmax%5D=&range%5Bnumweights%5D%5Bmin%5D=&colfiltertype=&searchuser=&range%5Bminplayers%5D%5Bmax%5D=&range%5Bmaxplayers%5D%5Bmin%5D=&playerrangetype=normal&range%5Bleastplaytime%5D%5Bmin%5D=&range%5Bplaytime%5D%5Bmax%5D=&propertyids%5B%5D=1016&propertyids%5B%5D=2026&B1=Submit) See if anything looks familiar.

Thanks!

I think it was Task Force games #4 which was originally sold in a ziplock bag and was the predecessor to star fleet battles and star fire.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-idnetifying-this-hex-game/845303/6 "2019-12-27T03:51:18Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Ogre is the closest game to what you describe that was from Steve Jackson but it involved futuristic ground combat, no ships involved. Otherwise it wasn’t from that publisher.

My mistake. It was actually by a guy named Steve Cole

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**Author:** ![Zelski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c67d28/32.png) [@Zelski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zelski)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-idnetifying-this-hex-game/845303/7 "2019-12-27T05:34:55Z")

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How about [Vector 3](https://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/4353/vector-3)?

It isn’t hex, it is grid, but it does a lot of what you say.
