# Help me accept it... (penis size)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-accept-it-penis-size/262323>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 30, 2004, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-accept-it-penis-size/262323 "2004-08-30T23:52:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Timestamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/919ad9/32.png) [@Timestamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Timestamp)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2004, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-accept-it-penis-size/262323/101 "2004-09-01T07:05:36Z")

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> [@iampunha](#):
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> How fortunate that these same sites offered (for financial compensation) ways to enlarge your penis.

neither [http://www.free-condom-stuff.com](http://www.free-condom-stuff.com) , [http://www.netdoctor.co.uk](http://www.netdoctor.co.uk) or [http://www.sizesurvey.com/](http://www.sizesurvey.com/) offers this as far as I can tell?

> [@iampunha](#):
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> Seeing a conflict of interest here? Have you read Cecil’s column (heh) on the matter?

The one that sais “But when erect, the average white penis was 6.2 inches long” ? ( [http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2\_193.html](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_193.html) )  
Because I can’t find any other article about it. If you could post the link I would be thankful.

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**Author:** ![Timestamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/919ad9/32.png) [@Timestamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Timestamp)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2004, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-accept-it-penis-size/262323/102 "2004-09-01T07:12:36Z")

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> [@iampunha](#):
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> “How’re you doing today, **Timestamp**?” your boss says. I do hope your response isn’t “Still only 14 centimeters long, but I won the lottery, so I suppose that’s okay.”

For your information, I lost my job two months ago.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2004, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-accept-it-penis-size/262323/103 "2004-09-01T07:57:28Z")

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> [@Timestamp](#):
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> For your information, I lost my job two months ago.

Not, I’ll wager, on the grounds that your penis is point three seven seven inches shorter than some dubious web-published average.

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**Author:** ![Timestamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/919ad9/32.png) [@Timestamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Timestamp)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2004, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-accept-it-penis-size/262323/104 "2004-09-01T08:06:53Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> Not, I’ll wager, on the grounds that your penis is point three seven seven inches shorter than some dubious web-published average.

0.7 compared to that quote from cecil’s article. and nope, I don’t know why I mentioned it. maybe to illustrate why I have too much time to ponder about this.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2004, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-accept-it-penis-size/262323/105 "2004-09-01T08:14:00Z")

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Careful! lest you become a parody of yourself.

The point is this; there are all sorts of things you could be thinking and worrying about; things that you _can actually change_, things that _actually matter if you change them_. Penis size is not something you can change, neither is it likely to make any worthwhile difference if you could. I’m not going to tell you how big mine is, but yours is bigger.

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**Author:** ![Green\_Cymbeline](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_cymbeline/32/9244_2.png) [@Green\_Cymbeline](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Cymbeline)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2004, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-accept-it-penis-size/262323/106 "2004-09-01T16:53:29Z")

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> Lemme tellya something about women, hon. We pretty much don’t care how long it is.

People keep saying “size doesn’t matter,” but it does.

Personally, having experienced penises of many sizes over the years, I prefer them at least 6 to 7 inches. My boyfriend of 9 years was 8 inches erect! (I measured it myself) 😃 In some positions and angles it hurt at certain times of the month, but otherwise it was great.

In the 5-inch range, you’re not really feeling much. It’s kind of ho-hum. The last couple of guys I dated were this way. It would keep falling out, and we had to stop to reinsert. Not very much fun.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2004, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-accept-it-penis-size/262323/107 "2004-09-01T17:08:26Z")

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> [@nyctea scandiaca](#):
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> In the 5-inch range, you’re not really feeling much. It’s kind of ho-hum.

Might that possibly depend on the person?

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**Author:** ![Green\_Cymbeline](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_cymbeline/32/9244_2.png) [@Green\_Cymbeline](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Cymbeline)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2004, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-accept-it-penis-size/262323/108 "2004-09-01T19:37:18Z")

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> [@iampunha](#):
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> Might that possibly depend on the person?

Of course it does. If that person has a 5-inch dick, chances are, the sex (the actual intercourse part) is gonna be ho-hum no matter how hard he pounds away. Booorrrr-iiinnnggg.

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**Author:** ![Standup\_Karmic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Standup\_Karmic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Standup_Karmic)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2004, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-accept-it-penis-size/262323/109 "2004-09-01T19:58:15Z")

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> [@nyctea scandiaca](#):
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> Of course it does. If that person has a 5-inch dick, chances are, the sex (the actual intercourse part) is gonna be ho-hum no matter how hard he pounds away. Booorrrr-iiinnnggg.

Perhaps you’re just particularly, erm, cavernous.

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**Author:** ![elfbabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b782af/32.png) [@elfbabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfbabe)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2004, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-accept-it-penis-size/262323/110 "2004-09-01T20:15:23Z")

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> [@nyctea scandiaca](#):
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> People keep saying “size doesn’t matter,” but it does.

The idea is not that size does not matter at ALL, but that it doesn’t really matter within a certain range. Judging from what other people have said, the bottom of your “acceptable” range appears to be somewhat higher than many women’s.

Fortunately for all involved, **Timestamp** is having sex with his girlfriend, not with you.

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**Author:** ![badmana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@badmana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badmana)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2004, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-accept-it-penis-size/262323/111 "2004-09-01T20:19:48Z")

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The OP seems to be a whiny bitch. Sorry, just sayin’.

Hey, let me help your shitty self esteem. I’m 4.5 inches! Oh damn, you got a whole inch on me. I’m also short! 5’6" tall!

**nyctea scandiaca** ’s posts to the contrary, most women simply don’t care. At all. My GF doesn’t complain and gets off so much that there are people here who don’t believe me! 😃  
If your obession is turning to suicidal thoughts, get help. Killing yourself over your penis is beyond pathetic. And how can you say surgery is too “dangerous” yet you want to throw yourself out the window? Like, what the hell? If you’re going to seriously kill yourself, at least try surgery first. Seesh.

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**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2004, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-accept-it-penis-size/262323/112 "2004-09-01T20:24:43Z")

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I’m at 5-5 1/2" myself, and it’s never bothered me. It’s enough and I get no complaints.

Relax. It’s no big…it’s not an issue except in your own mind with your own ego. Guess what? Apart from yourself, it doesn’t bother anybody and if it does. **don’t screw 'em!**

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2004, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-accept-it-penis-size/262323/113 "2004-09-01T20:52:32Z")

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> [@nyctea scandiaca](#):
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> Booorrrr-iiinnnggg.

Boring for you, perhaps, but we are not here talking about you but about **Timestamp** ’s girlfriend, and unless you have some Top Secret Knowledge about her, I’d submit that it isn’t yours to say “Sex will be boring for her because his dick isn’t 8 inches long.”😉 **Timestamp** has already said more than once (I’d rather not count the isolated incidents) that, despite what he believes is a smaller-than-average penis, his girlfriend has no issue whatsoever with his size and is, if reports are to be believed, thoroughly satisfied.

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**Author:** ![AwSnappity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a3d4f5/32.png) [@AwSnappity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AwSnappity)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2004, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-accept-it-penis-size/262323/114 "2004-09-01T22:08:11Z")

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> [@nyctea scandiaca](#):
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> Of course it does. If that person has a 5-inch dick, chances are, the sex (the actual intercourse part) is gonna be ho-hum no matter how hard he pounds away. Booorrrr-iiinnnggg.

I really don’t think you’re being very considerate to **Timestamp** by posting this here. The rest of us Dopers know that you’re probably more cavernous (thanks, **Standup Karmic** ) than the average woman, but I have a feeling that in his particular state of mind, **TS** might read your post and think that it is indicative of the way all women feel, thus negating all of the previous support that he has received.

Of course this is a public message board, and you’re free to share your opinion. I just wish that you hadn’t shared your opinion in such a manner that blatantly disregards **TS** ’s feelings. Next time, you should try to be a little less harsh (“ho-hum” and “boooorrrr-iiiinnnggg” come to mind as examples of not being considerate of **TS** ’s history on this matter), and maybe use more qualifiers (“This is strictly one woman’s opinion,” etc.).

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2004, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-accept-it-penis-size/262323/115 "2004-09-01T22:43:03Z")

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> [@Standup Karmic](#):
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> Perhaps you’re just particularly, erm, cavernous.

(insert(snerk) ‘still looking for my horse and cart’ joke here).

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**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2004, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-accept-it-penis-size/262323/116 "2004-09-01T23:26:03Z")

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As depressing as it may sound to say that you have a below average measurement, think of this: by the very definition of the term, 49% of men are going to be below the “average” size.

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**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2004, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-accept-it-penis-size/262323/117 "2004-09-01T23:32:44Z")

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A women who prefers a very large dick, would probably prefer a fist. With good sanitry behaviour , short nails, and lots of lube far more stimulation is possible from a fist than any large penis. Not that fisting is for everyone, but the cavenous could benifit from a partner who knows how.

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**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2004, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-accept-it-penis-size/262323/118 "2004-09-02T04:03:07Z")

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Look at it this way–a smaller penis means that you’ll eventually buy a really nice sports car as compensation. So what would you rather have–that extra centimeter or so, or a Porsche?

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2004, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-accept-it-penis-size/262323/119 "2004-09-02T04:51:42Z")

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I think I’m a bit smaller than the OP, and quite frankly, the cited idea that 70% of the men of our size are unhappy about their penis size astonishes me. I can understand some men wanting one that is larger, perhaps men who are with ladies who are, erm, cavernous, and to be honest, I’ve been with a couple that I was the one asking “Is it in yet?”, but with both my long term relationships, I fitted quite nicely, and we were all happy with it. Plus, it fits in the mouth, fits in the hand, fits in the … I’ll stop now. I’m content the way it is.

I can’t believe I posted in this thread; I’m going to blush now.

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**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2004, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-accept-it-penis-size/262323/120 "2004-09-02T06:23:47Z")

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**Timestamp** , one more thing that might help you: are you familiar with statistics, with the terms **average, median, mean, standarddeviation**? That might help a lot to get some perspective. I recommend the classic “How to lie with statistics”. It’s an easy and fun read, doesn’t require any mathskills, and you’ve finished it in two hours. Once you’ve read it, you’ll be immune to bogus claims in advertising, politics, anywhere. Including claims about penis-sizes being (below) “average”.  
That book also describes the problem with doing research that skew results, like **bias**. An iexample nstance of bias is the mechanism of self-selecting testgroups that **Jenaroph** described so well.

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