# Help me crack this safe **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [February 7, 2005, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-crack-this-safe/288737 "2005-02-07T01:42:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2005, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-crack-this-safe/288737/1 "2005-02-07T01:42:52Z")
Sisco Model 1701 “The Protector” Anti-Theft safe This safe has both a 5-pin key-lock and combo on the front. Initially I had thought the safe could be opened by either method, but I’m 99% sure Ive picked the key lock completely, but it will not turn all the way. When I attempt to turn the cylinder, it wiggles the knob of the combo lock. I am no good at cracking the combo by “feel” or “sound” or any of that movie bullshit (I’m going deaf :(), and I’d rather not have to drill it, 'cause I want to keep the safe (It was free, and buying a new lock would defeat the coolness of a free safe). Does this safe require both the key and combination to open? Anyone familiar with it? Any suggestions, short of Wile-E-Coyote and a stick of cartoon dynamite? ---
**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2005, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-crack-this-safe/288737/2 "2005-02-07T01:50:12Z")
My bad, that should be Model 1071. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2005, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-crack-this-safe/288737/3 "2005-02-07T02:36:56Z")
[Sisco Lost Keys/Combinations](http://www.siscoproducts.com/cgi-bin/ducs/display.pl/o __content_cms/a__ display/i__2) ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2005, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-crack-this-safe/288737/4 "2005-02-07T04:02:08Z")
A large percentage of combination locks are set to a date. Try them first. ---
**Author:** ![AmbushBug](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ambushbug/32/4600_2.png) [@AmbushBug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AmbushBug)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2005, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-crack-this-safe/288737/5 "2005-02-07T04:50:45Z")
[Here’s](http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/01/208237&tid=172) a link to a slashdot article about safecracking. The referenced document on [crypto.com](http://crypto.com) may not help you, but both the article and the document are interesting reading. IIRC threads on lockpicking/safecracking often get closed, as they devolve too closely to a discussion of illegal activity, though I suspect you probably own this safe or are otherwise trying to open it legally. ---
**Author:** ![Iceland\_Blue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/4bbf92/32.png) [@Iceland\_Blue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iceland_Blue)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2005, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-crack-this-safe/288737/6 "2005-02-07T11:09:53Z")
And if you aren’t…then we deny all knowledge of you or having told you anything… ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2005, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-crack-this-safe/288737/7 "2005-02-07T12:54:00Z")
Tick tock tick tock tick tock… ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2005, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-crack-this-safe/288737/8 "2005-02-07T13:08:19Z")
Contact a licensed locksmith. ---
**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2005, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-crack-this-safe/288737/9 "2005-02-07T13:19:46Z")
We have no way of knowing if you own the safe, and no way of stopping the unscrupulous from using the information a thread like this would provide. Best advice is to contact a locksmith or the manufacturer. bibliophage moderator GQ