# Help me demonstrate that Sarah Palin is worthy of being President

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [August 26, 2010, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-demonstrate-that-sarah-palin-is-worthy-of-being-president/551572 "2010-08-26T19:30:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-demonstrate-that-sarah-palin-is-worthy-of-being-president/551572/61 "2010-08-27T17:58:40Z")

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No transcript, really, but [here](http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/195655-1)’s the speech itself on CSPAN.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-demonstrate-that-sarah-palin-is-worthy-of-being-president/551572/62 "2010-08-27T18:06:37Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> I can’t give links to any speeches, but it appears that 20 of the 30 candidates she endorsed [have won](http://www.slate.com/id/2265060/). Presumably she made speeches on their behalves, which were evidently successful.

None of these elections have been held yet. These were primaries, not elections (basically the process for choosing party nominations in the US). These were all Republicans battling Republicans. We already knew that the Republican party has beome increasingly hostage to the most extremist, racist, nutjob elements of its base, and we already knew that Palin was very popular with (is part and parcel of) those elements. This means nothing beyond that.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-demonstrate-that-sarah-palin-is-worthy-of-being-president/551572/63 "2010-08-27T18:12:47Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> No transcript, really, but [here](http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/195655-1)’s the speech itself on CSPAN.

No good, can’t watch at work. ☹

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-demonstrate-that-sarah-palin-is-worthy-of-being-president/551572/64 "2010-08-27T19:29:39Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> > [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> > No transcript, really, but [here](http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/195655-1)’s the speech itself on CSPAN.
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> No good, can’t watch at work. ☹

If you can find Kaylee Johnson’s biography, “Sarah: How a Hockey Mom Turned the Political Establishment Upside Down”, it’s in the appendix there.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-demonstrate-that-sarah-palin-is-worthy-of-being-president/551572/65 "2010-08-27T21:03:34Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> > [@Quartz](#):
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> > I can’t give links to any speeches, but it appears that 20 of the 30 candidates she endorsed [have won](http://www.slate.com/id/2265060/). Presumably she made speeches on their behalves, which were evidently successful.
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> None of these elections have been held yet. These were primaries, not elections (basically the process for choosing party nominations in the US).

So?

> [@](#):
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> These were all Republicans battling Republicans.

So? They’re still elections. These candidates won and had her support.

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> We already knew that the Republican party has beome increasingly hostage to the most extremist, racist, nutjob elements of its base, and we already knew that Palin was very popular with (is part and parcel of) those elements. This means nothing beyond that.

So, you can confirm that the opponents of the candidates she supported were all more moderate?

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-demonstrate-that-sarah-palin-is-worthy-of-being-president/551572/66 "2010-08-27T21:22:21Z")

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She can see Russia from her house. You and the rest of the lame stream media don’t get to define what intellectual is. And papers? She said she read the New York Times. That’s a well reason. You elitists don’t appreciate real American values.

(I know, I know, but how did you expect to get any responses?)

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-demonstrate-that-sarah-palin-is-worthy-of-being-president/551572/67 "2010-08-27T21:25:37Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> > None of these elections have been held yet. These were primaries, not elections (basically the process for choosing party nominations in the US).
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> So?
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> So? They’re still elections. These candidates won and had her support.
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> > [@](#):
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> > We already knew that the Republican party has beome increasingly hostage to the most extremist, racist, nutjob elements of its base, and we already knew that Palin was very popular with (is part and parcel of) those elements. This means nothing beyond that.
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> So, you can confirm that the opponents of the candidates she supported were all more moderate?

No, but i can confirm that this is off-topic.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-demonstrate-that-sarah-palin-is-worthy-of-being-president/551572/68 "2010-08-27T21:36:19Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> She can see Russia from her house. You and the rest of the lame stream media don’t get to define what intellectual is. And papers? She said she read the New York Times. That’s a well reason. You elitists don’t appreciate real American values.
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> (I know, I know, but how did you expect to get any responses?)

I expect to get responses by expecting people like you to act like adults and not hijack this thread. This is not a parody or joke thread, but responses like yours gives others the excuse not to post. If you have nothing to offer, _then offer nothing_.  
Is this clear enough for you?

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-demonstrate-that-sarah-palin-is-worthy-of-being-president/551572/69 "2010-08-27T21:47:17Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I expect to get responses by expecting people like you to act like adults and not hijack this thread. This is not a parody or joke thread, but responses like yours gives others the excuse not to post. If you have nothing to offer, _then offer nothing_.  
> Is this clear enough for you?

Apology for the sake of politeness.  
Advice, don’t start serious threads with joke titles.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-demonstrate-that-sarah-palin-is-worthy-of-being-president/551572/70 "2010-08-27T21:47:45Z")

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Thanks **Sam Stone** , wonderful post. I used to hate the woman with the heat of a thousand suns, but I now have some doubt she’s all bad or all incompetent.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-demonstrate-that-sarah-palin-is-worthy-of-being-president/551572/71 "2010-08-27T21:50:19Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> > [@Czarcasm](#):
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> > I expect to get responses by expecting people like you to act like adults and not hijack this thread. This is not a parody or joke thread, but responses like yours gives others the excuse not to post. If you have nothing to offer, _then offer nothing_.  
> > Is this clear enough for you?
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> Apology for the sake of politeness.  
> Advice, don’t start serious threads with joke titles.

Advice for _you_-next time read through the thread, and you might catch the multiple times people are warned not to joke in a non-joke thread.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-demonstrate-that-sarah-palin-is-worthy-of-being-president/551572/72 "2010-08-28T00:19:59Z")

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> [@Sitnam](#):
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> Thanks **Sam Stone** , wonderful post. I used to hate the woman with the heat of a thousand suns, but I now have some doubt she’s all bad or all incompetent.

Actually, I would kind of rather she was all incompetent. It bothers me more that someone with some smarts could say the things she does than that a complete boob could capture the imagination of the voting public for 15 minutes.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-demonstrate-that-sarah-palin-is-worthy-of-being-president/551572/73 "2010-08-28T00:38:55Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> > [@Magiver](#):
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> > She knows how to balance a budget and that doesn’t require a speech. And she’s certainly capable of continuing the military strategies of [del]Bush[/del] Obama.
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> And that would be an excellent point to make…in a thread dedicated to that subject.

You asked for speeches to show her end result capabilities. Her actions are her speech. Anybody can make a soundbite and promises are free (well until elected and then it gets expensive). The process of hiring politicians is no different than that of installing a prom queen.

Maybe we should choose leaders like we would choose a surgeon and use experience as a metric.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-demonstrate-that-sarah-palin-is-worthy-of-being-president/551572/74 "2010-08-28T02:42:45Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> > [@TriPolar](#):
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> > Apology for the sake of politeness.  
> > Advice, don’t start serious threads with joke titles.
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> Advice for _you_-next time read through the thread, and you might catch the multiple times people are warned not to joke in a non-joke thread.

C’mon, Czarcasm. You know the drill. If someone is misbehaving, report the post, don’t try to mete out discipline, yourself.

TriPolar, others have managed to provide on point examples. You are not being forced to post to this thread, so if you are going to simply throw out more insults, go post in the Pit thread on the converse topic.

[/Modding]

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-demonstrate-that-sarah-palin-is-worthy-of-being-president/551572/75 "2010-08-28T03:25:33Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> > [@Czarcasm](#):
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> > Advice for _you_-next time read through the thread, and you might catch the multiple times people are warned not to joke in a non-joke thread.
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> C’mon, Czarcasm. You know the drill. If someone is misbehaving, report the post, don’t try to mete out discipline, yourself.
> 
> TriPolar, others have managed to provide on point examples. You are not being forced to post to this thread, so if you are going to simply throw out more insults, go post in the Pit thread on the converse topic.
> 
> [/Modding]

I shall refrain. Czarcasm, honest apologies.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-demonstrate-that-sarah-palin-is-worthy-of-being-president/551572/76 "2010-08-28T03:30:22Z")

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She is kind of pretty and has nice legs. Therefore she should be president.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-demonstrate-that-sarah-palin-is-worthy-of-being-president/551572/77 "2010-08-28T04:34:19Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> > [@tomndebb](#):
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> > C’mon, Czarcasm. You know the drill. If someone is misbehaving, report the post, don’t try to mete out discipline, yourself.
> > 
> > TriPolar, others have managed to provide on point examples. You are not being forced to post to this thread, so if you are going to simply throw out more insults, go post in the Pit thread on the converse topic.
> > 
> > [/Modding]
> 
> I shall refrain. Czarcasm, honest apologies.

Right back atcha. Peace out.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Knig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@Typo\_Knig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Knig)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-demonstrate-that-sarah-palin-is-worthy-of-being-president/551572/78 "2010-08-28T16:38:06Z")

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**Czarcasm** , here is the best I can do: Sarah Palin’s Op-Ed piece in the Washington Post against Cap and Trade: [Linky](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/13/AR2009071302852_pf.html)

In my not the least bit humble opinion, it’s no better than what a well-read college freshman would write, but there it is. I’ll leave to another thread the question of why conservatives are so opposed to market-based solutions like cap and trade. Don’t they like the free market? 😕

I think that Palin’s appeal to her supporters is the exact opposite of thoughtful examination of the issues of the day, explored carefully with the written or spoken word. I think Palinites like to go with their gut instincts, and like their leaders to do the same. Your thread was doomed from the start, but I think you knew that.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-demonstrate-that-sarah-palin-is-worthy-of-being-president/551572/79 "2010-08-28T16:44:57Z")

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Oh dear.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-demonstrate-that-sarah-palin-is-worthy-of-being-president/551572/80 "2010-08-28T16:58:09Z")

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> [@Typo\_Knig](#):
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> **Czarcasm** , here is the best I can do: Sarah Palin’s Op-Ed piece in the Washington Post against Cap and Trade: [Linky](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/13/AR2009071302852_pf.html)
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> In my not the least bit humble opinion, it’s no better than what a well-read college freshman would write, but there it is. I’ll leave to another thread the question of why conservatives are so opposed to market-based solutions like cap and trade. Don’t they like the free market? 😕

I don’t believe for a second that she writes her own op-ed pieces. I have doubts that she even writes her own Facebook posts.

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