# help me find this 90s science fantasy series

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**Created:** [January 3, 2016, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-90s-science-fantasy-series/742047 "2016-01-03T07:41:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-90s-science-fantasy-series/742047/1 "2016-01-03T07:41:02Z")

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Ok bare with me on this one since I don’t remember all the details. It was a series with a least five books, each book was told from the point of view of a different character with overlapping stories. Started out as a fairly generic low magic fantasy world then some high tech was introduced from nowhere in the third book or so. First book possibly involved a shipwrecked magicians apprentice character from what I remember. It wasn’t high fantasy, it was very pulpy and didn’t take itself too seriously. Fair bit of sex thrown in. The books all had a bit of a picaresque feel in that they were mostly a series of misadventures of characters caught up in events beyond their control. Second or third book focused on a very arabic influenced culture, caliphs and viziers etc

I don’t think it was a popular series so it might be out of print, but I’m 90 percent sure I didn’t just imagine it. Have looked through various lists of fantasy / science fantasy series and can’t find it.

Anyone have a clue?

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-90s-science-fantasy-series/742047/2 "2016-01-03T07:53:17Z")

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a few more bits of information. The protagonists were all pretty much anti-heroes or morally ambiguous and each book was told only from one characters POV.

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-90s-science-fantasy-series/742047/3 "2016-01-03T08:27:34Z")

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Sounds like you’ve mixed up a couple of the Tracy Hickman/Margeret Weiss series into one series, thre. The shipwrecked apprentice and Arabic culture bits definitely sound like [The Rose Of The Prophet](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_of_the_Prophet)series, but that’s just 3 books. The bit about low magic and then high tech could be either the [Darksword](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darksword) ‘trilogy’ or the [Death Gate Cycle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_Gate_Cycle)(a heptalogy)

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-90s-science-fantasy-series/742047/4 "2016-01-03T08:42:08Z")

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Found it after looking through many lists of picaresque fantasy series. It was the Chronicles of an Age of Darkness series by Hugh Cook.

> **[Chronicles of an Age of Darkness Series by Hugh Cook](https://www.goodreads.com/series/43157-chronicles-of-an-age-of-darkness)**
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> The Wizards and the Warriors (Chronicles Of An Age Of Darkness: Volume 1), The Wordsmiths and the Warguild, The Women And The Warlords (Chronicles of an...

Now to try and track them down, yes all out of print.

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-90s-science-fantasy-series/742047/5 "2016-01-03T08:43:54Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Sounds like you’ve mixed up a couple of the Tracy Hickman/Margeret Weiss series into one series, thre. The shipwrecked apprentice and Arabic culture bits definitely sound like [The Rose Of The Prophet](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_of_the_Prophet)series, but that’s just 3 books. The bit about low magic and then high tech could be either the [Darksword](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darksword) ‘trilogy’ or the [Death Gate Cycle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_Gate_Cycle)(a heptalogy)

That was what I thought originally, too, except he mentioned lots of sex, something largely absent from W&H.

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-90s-science-fantasy-series/742047/6 "2016-01-03T09:04:08Z")

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> [@coremelt](#):
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> Found it after looking through many lists of picaresque fantasy series. It was the Chronicles of an Age of Darkness series by Hugh Cook.

I really liked the series at first, with all its titles having Ws in them, with a sense of humour that reminded me of Jack Vance. But then it got a bit heavy and convoluted and I lost interest. And so did he, by the looks of things.

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-90s-science-fantasy-series/742047/7 "2016-01-03T09:22:14Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> I really liked the series at first, with all its titles having Ws in them, with a sense of humour that reminded me of Jack Vance. But then it got a bit heavy and convoluted and I lost interest. And so did he, by the looks of things.

He finished 10 books which is pretty good going, and he died at a fairly young age of cancer. Anyway I’m going to try and track them down. Theres no ebooks available so second hand from Amazon it is.

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> That was what I thought originally, too, except he mentioned lots of sex, something largely absent from W&H.

True, missed that bit.

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-90s-science-fantasy-series/742047/9 "2016-01-03T16:31:47Z")

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> [@coremelt](#):
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> Found it after looking through many lists of picaresque fantasy series. It was the Chronicles of an Age of Darkness series by Hugh Cook.
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> [Chronicles of an Age of Darkness Series by Hugh Cook](https://www.goodreads.com/series/43157-chronicles-of-an-age-of-darkness)
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> Now to try and track them down, yes all out of print.

You should be able to get a copy of The Walrus and the Warwolf; Paizo Publishing reissued it a few years ago.

[http://paizo.com/products/btpy88wa?The-Walrus-the-Warwolf](http://paizo.com/products/btpy88wa?The-Walrus-the-Warwolf)

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-90s-science-fantasy-series/742047/10 "2016-01-04T02:27:54Z")

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Yep thanks also frustratingly they don’t seem to sell an ebook version either. Its not that obscure, apparently the first few books in the series sold 450,000 copies , AFAIK thats a lot for fantasy.

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-90s-science-fantasy-series/742047/11 "2016-01-04T21:25:09Z")

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> [@coremelt](#):
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> Found it after looking through many lists of picaresque fantasy series. It was the Chronicles of an Age of Darkness series by Hugh Cook.
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> [Chronicles of an Age of Darkness Series by Hugh Cook](https://www.goodreads.com/series/43157-chronicles-of-an-age-of-darkness)
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> Now to try and track them down, yes all out of print.

[Beavis voice] Huh huh huh. Hugh. Cook. Huh huh.[/Beavis voice]
