# Help me find this porn video please

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-porn-video-please/789083>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 16, 2017, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-porn-video-please/789083 "2017-06-16T04:26:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![femmejean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/0ea827/32.png) [@femmejean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/femmejean)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-porn-video-please/789083/21 "2017-06-16T05:30:28Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> What’s more insane: Getting off on a woman getting raped or wanting to discourage such things? This kind of pork normalised rape. The aficionado of this is also getting off on the suffering of the husband/father. These folks need to be institutionalized.

So because you don’t like seeing fantasized rape, people who do need to be institutionalized?

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-porn-video-please/789083/22 "2017-06-16T05:31:30Z")

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I…must…read…first…porn…porn…porn.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-porn-video-please/789083/23 "2017-06-16T05:32:30Z")

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> [@femmejean](#):
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> So because you don’t like seeing fantasized rape, people who do need to be institutionalized?

Yeah. Getting off on the torture and suffering of others is a mental illness.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-porn-video-please/789083/24 "2017-06-16T05:35:24Z")

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> [@myeidsex](#):
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> I
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> No that is a song!!

[No shit, sherlock.](http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/rickroll)

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**Author:** ![femmejean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/0ea827/32.png) [@femmejean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/femmejean)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-porn-video-please/789083/25 "2017-06-16T05:35:41Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> Do we allow kiddie poem? Snuff pork? There are limits. The UK has much stricter limits than we do.

Excuse my ignorance but what is kiddie poem and snuff pork?

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-porn-video-please/789083/26 "2017-06-16T05:35:49Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> I…must…read…first…porn…porn…porn.

I dunno, “pork” works too.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-porn-video-please/789083/27 "2017-06-16T05:37:03Z")

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Ok…feeding time over.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-porn-video-please/789083/28 "2017-06-16T05:40:05Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> Yeah. Getting off on the torture and suffering of others is a mental illness.

Good thing that’s not happening here, because nobody in such a fantasy is suffering unless they wanna be. The difference between rape and fantasies about rape is staggering. They aren’t anywhere close to the same thing.

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**Author:** ![femmejean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/0ea827/32.png) [@femmejean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/femmejean)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-porn-video-please/789083/29 "2017-06-16T05:43:29Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> Yeah. Getting off on the torture and suffering of others is a mental illness.

Really? Why not evil? What gives you the qualification to make such a far-fetched statement? Where is the line drawn?

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-porn-video-please/789083/30 "2017-06-16T05:45:15Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> Good thing that’s not happening here, because nobody in such a fantasy is suffering unless they wanna be. The difference between rape and fantasies about rape is staggering. They aren’t anywhere close to the same thing.

Does this argument carry over to fantasies of pedophilia and actual pedophilia? Between people who fantasize about killing and actual killing? Im not convinced. We must imagine something before we do it and I can assure you that many (most) men never fantasize about rape.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-porn-video-please/789083/31 "2017-06-16T06:02:06Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> Does this argument carry over to fantasies of pedophilia and actual pedophilia? Between people who fantasize about killing and actual killing? Im not convinced. We must imagine something before we do it and I can assure you that many (most) men never fantasize about rape.

According to the bazillion surveys on this subject, most women fantasize about rape, and many men do. I don’t think we are all mentally ill. It’s not really my fetish, but bondage and submission are, so they sometimes overlap. Sometimes those depictions disturb me and trigger my own PTSD, and sometimes they don’t. Sexuality is a strange thing.

I don’t know about pedophilia. I think the sticking point for me would be whether the fantasy is likely to increase the odds of a real life offense. I’ve never seen any evidence that they do, but I’m open to new information.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-porn-video-please/789083/32 "2017-06-16T06:09:03Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> According to the bazillion surveys on this subject, most women fantasize about rape, and many men do. I don’t think we are all mentally ill. It’s not really my fetish, but bondage and submission are, so they sometimes overlap. Sometimes those depictions disturb me and trigger my own PTSD, and sometimes they don’t. Sexuality is a strange thing.
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> I don’t know about pedophilia. I think the sticking point for me would be whether the fantasy is likely to increase the odds of a real life offense. I’ve never seen any evidence that they do, but I’m open to new information.

I know that you have done much more research on this topic than me so I will shut up and listen. I have never had rape fantasies and my male friends have never spoken of any…but that is all anecdotal. My fantasy is that these fantasies didn’t exist. ☹

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-porn-video-please/789083/33 "2017-06-16T06:13:16Z")

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Here you go. This article finds 62% of women have fantasized about being forced by a man to have sex.

[https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/blog/all-about-sex/201508/why-do-women-have-rape-fantasies%3Famp](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/blog/all-about-sex/201508/why-do-women-have-rape-fantasies%3Famp)

Numbers on men are harder to find.

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**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-porn-video-please/789083/34 "2017-06-16T06:14:37Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> Do we allow kiddie poem? Snuff pork?

Last weekend I had to listen to my nephew read a sonnet he wrote for school. I thought I was going to gouge my eyes out listening to him stammer through it. So I agree kiddie poem should be outlawed.

[Snuff pork](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD9_mphrfy8) is another matter.

As long as were on the topic, I’d like a copy of the movie “Big Thumbs”. No deviancy. Just good ol’ 70’s style regular porno.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-porn-video-please/789083/35 "2017-06-16T06:16:09Z")

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They key finding is that women who had such fantasies tended to be more sexually open and view themselves as more desirable. Having actually experienced rape had no bearing on whether a woman engaged in these fantasies.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-porn-video-please/789083/36 "2017-06-16T06:17:36Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> Here you go. This article finds 62% of women have fantasized about being forced by a man to have sex.
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> [Why Do Women Have Rape Fantasies? | Psychology Today](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/blog/all-about-sex/201508/why-do-women-have-rape-fantasies%3Famp)
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> Numbers on men are harder to find.

But isn’t it far worse to fantasize to be the rapist? And what if the rapist was repulsive to the woman?

Imo men should not be watching this stuff. I’m sure it wouldnt affect 98% of men but is it worth it to create even a few rapists?

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-porn-video-please/789083/37 "2017-06-16T06:19:00Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> Stupid autocorrect…porn…not pork

Not sure if autocorrect, or Freudian slip. 🙂

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-porn-video-please/789083/38 "2017-06-16T06:22:42Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> Not sure if autocorrect, or Freudian slip. 🙂

Pork…pork…I expect a deeply religious experience Boon 🙂

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-porn-video-please/789083/39 "2017-06-16T06:25:11Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> But isn’t it far worse to fantasize to be the rapist? And what if the rapist was repulsive to the woman?
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> Imo men should not be watching this stuff. I’m sure it wouldnt affect 98% of men but is it worth it to create even a few rapists?

Nah. It doesn’t bother me. I don’t think it would affect anyone who wouldn’t already be willing to rape. I think part of the problem is assuming the motivation is equal for the fantasizer and the real life perpetrator. With such a vastly different experience between the two scenarios for women, why would it be the same for men? I suspect men are less likely to admit it, but it’s pretty common. Probably something about being virile and strong and changing the woman’s mind through the magic of peen.

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-this-porn-video-please/789083/40 "2017-06-16T06:30:48Z")

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Kiddie poem  
Snuff pork

AND the increasingly rare Rickroll…this thread has it all.

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