# Help me ID this Guadalajaran tourist attraction **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 27, 2016, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-id-this-guadalajaran-tourist-attraction/764109 "2016-08-27T04:46:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2016, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-id-this-guadalajaran-tourist-attraction/764109/1 "2016-08-27T04:46:30Z")
Some 10 years ago I spent a summer in Guadalajara, Mexico. There were some really cool attractions there, and one thing I remember was a cathedral or building with fancy architecture, I believe with murals painted on the ceiling. But the thing I remember most vividly is there was a big mirror on the floor to reflect the ceiling, and if you looked down into it, it felt like you were looking down, into the ceiling of the cathedral far below. I’m pretty sure I remember it so well because it freaked me right out. Anyhow, one theory I have is that it was the \*Man of Fire \* mural by Orozco and the building was the [Hospicio Cabañas](http://gobackpacking.com/hospicio-cabanas/), a former orphanage-turned-World Heritage Site, and I definitely remember the Hospicio Cabañas, but I can’t see any reference to a mirror there when I Google. Any suggestions? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2016, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-id-this-guadalajaran-tourist-attraction/764109/2 "2016-08-27T05:04:16Z")
Can I interest you in [this](https://mauritiantammy.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/0461bc3349f6013fc978f22e84a05907.jpg?w=736), in meets all your specifications, except for that it’s in Guadalajara, _Spain_. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2016, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-id-this-guadalajaran-tourist-attraction/764109/3 "2016-08-27T05:12:46Z")
This page is probably closer to what you’re looking for. It’s the same artist/mural in the OP and show a picture of the mirror. > **[Orozco Murals in Guadalajara](https://craigduff.wordpress.com/2007/12/08/orozco-murals-in-guadalajara/)** > > When José Clemente Orozco looked up at the chapel dome of Hospicio Cabañas, a grand colonial building that long housed an orphanage in Guadalajara, he knew he had a challenge on his hands: to paint… ETA, thinking about it, I feel like I’d get disoriented looking at it through a mirror. My head spins a little just thinking about it. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2016, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-id-this-guadalajaran-tourist-attraction/764109/4 "2016-08-27T05:27:05Z")
Alas, on my Guadalajara visit the Hospicio Cabañas was closed in preparation for a pan-Hispanic conference including the King of Spain & reps from every country in Latin America. So I didn’t get to see those great murals. But we stayed at the Hotel Frances, across from the Palacio Gobierno, where [another mural by Jose Clemente Orozco](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwO1F0RpuDQ) wraps itself around a staircase. Powerful stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2016, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-id-this-guadalajaran-tourist-attraction/764109/5 "2016-08-27T13:55:23Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > This page is probably closer to what you’re looking for. It’s the same artist/mural in the OP and show a picture of the mirror. > [Orozco Murals in Guadalajara – Craig Duff Blogs](https://craigduff.wordpress.com/2007/12/08/orozco-murals-in-guadalajara/) > > ETA, thinking about it, I feel like I’d get disoriented looking at it through a mirror. My head spins a little just thinking about it. Yes, that’s it! Okay, confirmed, Hospicio. Looking into that mirror was freaky indeed. I’m afraid of heights and I couldn’t bring myself to get too close. It’s like staring down into a beautiful abyss. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2016, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-id-this-guadalajaran-tourist-attraction/764109/6 "2016-08-27T13:57:24Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > But we stayed at the Hotel Frances, across from the Palacio Gobierno, where [another mural by Jose Clemente Orozco](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwO1F0RpuDQ) wraps itself around a staircase. Powerful stuff. That looks super cool, though. I’m sorry you missed out on Hospicio. It was impressive.