# help me ID this miniseries/movie **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 15, 2016, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-id-this-miniseries-movie/762898 "2016-08-15T12:00:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-id-this-miniseries-movie/762898/1 "2016-08-15T12:00:38Z")
I have a pretty distinct memory of seeing this as a kid (probably early 80s). In the scene, a group of people are hiding (probably from Nazis). A baby starts crying. One of the men (I think?) takes the baby to “comfort” it. When the danger has passed, it is revealed he has smothered the baby to save the group. An exhaustive Google search has revealed only confusion and contradiction. Help me, SDMB! You’re my only hope! ---
**Author:** ![Blake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@Blake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blake)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-id-this-miniseries-movie/762898/2 "2016-08-15T12:11:11Z")
It is from “Goodbye, Farewell and Amen”, the final episode of MASH. Scene readily available on Youtube. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-id-this-miniseries-movie/762898/3 "2016-08-15T12:52:21Z")
IIRC, in the Hawkeye’s flashback it’s a chicken that is making noise, and the woman who quieted it did so by smothering it. But it’s later revealed that it was actually a baby and the mother killed her own baby to save everyone on the bus. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-id-this-miniseries-movie/762898/4 "2016-08-15T13:06:37Z")
There is such a story about people fleeing Nazis. I don’t know of any movie or TV version of this. ---
**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-id-this-miniseries-movie/762898/5 "2016-08-15T13:32:14Z")
It’s referenced on [30 Rock](https://peelslowlynsee.wordpress.com/2010/09/17/goodbye-farewell-and-reinvention/)when Alan Alda was a guest star. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-id-this-miniseries-movie/762898/6 "2016-08-15T17:15:52Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > There is such a story about people fleeing Nazis. I don’t know of any movie or TV version of this. In **this movie** , Henry Silva accidentally smothers a woman’s baby while hiding from the Nazis in a graveyard: > **[The Secret Invasion (1964) ⭐ 5.9 | Action, Drama, History](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058561/)** > > 1h 35m | Approved I saw this in the cinema when it first came out (I was nine at the time), and that scene really disturbed me. Perhaps you saw it later on TV. ---
**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-id-this-miniseries-movie/762898/7 "2016-08-15T17:31:21Z")
If the film had Rosanna Arquette in it, it may have been a made for television movie, The Wall (1982).[The Wall (TV Movie 1982) - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084884/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_123) The baby was smothered while under the sewers of Warsaw when they finally escaped. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-id-this-miniseries-movie/762898/8 "2016-08-15T18:07:08Z")
> [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](#): > > I have a pretty distinct memory of seeing this as a kid (probably early 80s). In the scene, a group of people are hiding (probably from Nazis). A baby starts crying. One of the men (I think?) takes the baby to “comfort” it. When the danger has passed, it is revealed he has smothered the baby to save the group. > > An exhaustive Google search has revealed only confusion and contradiction. Help me, SDMB! You’re my only hope! ABC did an Anne Frank mini-series back in the mid-to-late 90s/early-to-mid 2005 and a scene like this was in it verbatim. It’s so weird because I was JUST thinking about this scene in the last, maybe, week or so? Craaaazy. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-id-this-miniseries-movie/762898/9 "2016-08-15T18:15:46Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > In **this movie** , Henry Silva accidentally smothers a woman’s baby while hiding from the Nazis in a graveyard: > > [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058561/](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058561/) > > I saw this in the cinema when it first came out (I was nine at the time), and that scene really disturbed me. Perhaps you saw it later on TV. Holy fuck; would it have killed you to write the name of the movie: The Secret Invasion? Are you paid per click to IMDB or something? Also, you could have mentioned that it’s a Roger Corman flick from 1964; details like that can help people trying to remember stuff. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-id-this-miniseries-movie/762898/10 "2016-08-15T18:17:54Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Are you paid per click to IMDB or something? Are you too lazy to click on a link? ---
**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-id-this-miniseries-movie/762898/11 "2016-08-16T06:08:18Z")
Jeez, this is practically a TV trope. I didn’t know this was so common. I’m pretty sure it was a Holocaust film or miniseries. You guys are (as always) super helpful! ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-id-this-miniseries-movie/762898/12 "2016-08-16T08:47:35Z")
That scene in The Secret Invasion really made an impression upon my sister and me when we were younger. Whenever we’d catch Henry Silva in another role later (and he was quite prolific) we’d exclaim “It’s Babykiller”! ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-id-this-miniseries-movie/762898/13 "2016-08-16T09:51:01Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > Are you too lazy to click on a link? Maybe he doesn’t know how links work and was angry at having to type\*\* henry silva nazis\*\* into Google? ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-id-this-miniseries-movie/762898/14 "2016-08-16T10:00:43Z")
> [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](#): > > Jeez, this is practically a TV trope. I didn’t know this was so common. I’m pretty sure it was a Holocaust film or miniseries. You guys are (as always) super helpful! FWIW, a similar story, but with Indians rather than Nazis, is related in _Quigley Down Under_. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-id-this-miniseries-movie/762898/15 "2016-08-16T17:31:42Z")
> [@don\_t\_ask](#): > > Maybe he doesn’t know how links work and was angry at having to type\*\* henry silva nazis\*\* into Google? Probably doesn’t know how to copy things either. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-id-this-miniseries-movie/762898/16 "2016-08-17T02:48:26Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > ABC did an Anne Frank mini-series back in the mid-to-late 90s/early-to-mid 2005 and a scene like this was in it verbatim. > > It’s so weird because I was JUST thinking about this scene in the last, maybe, week or so? Craaaazy. There was a time I would often reference this scene in my…humor (because anne frank jokes are hilarious!:p)…but everyone kept telling me I was confusing the scene with something non anne frank related. I’m glad I wasn’t and it was they who were stupid, and not just my jokes. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-id-this-miniseries-movie/762898/17 "2016-08-17T04:53:14Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > Are you too lazy to click on a link? No, but clearly you are too lazy to just answer a question, since you didn’t even give the name of the movie you were linking to. And without that, what good was your post except to provide IMDB with a click-through? ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-id-this-miniseries-movie/762898/18 "2016-08-17T18:11:07Z")
Let’s stop the sniping at each other (everybody) and get back to the topic at hand, please.