# Help me identify this James Bond movie…

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 10, 2014, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-identify-this-james-bond-movie/685787 "2014-04-10T08:10:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> You’re maybe thinking of _You Only Live Twice_, where IIRC Bond’s gracious host has prepared him a drink just the way he likes it – stirred, not shaken, right? And our hero doesn’t correct him, because that wouldn’t be awesome.

Could be, could be. Makes sense - I’d maybe heard it incorrectly as Bond asking the first time, but when I’d rewatch it I’d hear it correctly, and never made the connection.

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Is it the one with the hidden knife in the attache case? If yes then it would be _From Russia With Love_. Great film… with the guy from Jaws.

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-identify-this-james-bond-movie/685787/23 "2014-04-10T15:28:56Z")

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I enjoyed the line in Casino Royale where the bartender asked Bond if he wanted his martini shaken or stirred, and Bond replied, “Do I look like I give a damn?”

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-identify-this-james-bond-movie/685787/24 "2014-04-10T15:33:25Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> In addition to Holly Goodhead (the CIA agent who was also qualified to pilot the space shuttle - !), there was Corinne Dufour (played by Corinne Cléry), who worked for the main villain, Drax. She slept with Bond, then was killed by Drax’s dobermans.

That one always bugged me. Bond never even knew he’d cost her her life. It brought it home to me about his character-he probably wouldn’t have even cared. Talk about ‘treating women as disposable pleasures’!

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-identify-this-james-bond-movie/685787/25 "2014-04-10T15:37:38Z")

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> [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](#):
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> I believe that was either The Terminator with the Golden Gun or possibly The Spy who Dies Hard.

I was thinking either _ThunderBourne_ or _For True Lies Only_

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-identify-this-james-bond-movie/685787/26 "2014-04-10T15:45:22Z")

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> [@Raguleader](#):
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> Yeah, Money Penny straight up shot him down in the latest movie.

And for a minute I was fully expecting him to yell, “Damnit, Lana! That hurt!” In fact, I found it oddly disconcerting that the character wasn’t speaking in H. Jon Benjamin’s voice. On the other hand, I thought Judi Dench did a fantastic job of mimicking Jessica Walter, save for her anachonistic use of British colloqualisms.

> [@ftg](#):
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> “The villain is surprisingly cordial to Bond, going so far to tell Bond his secret plans.” really rules out a lot of them. E.g., in _Goldfinger_, Bond overhears Goldfinger’s plan by listening to it from under the model.

Actually, in a few scenes after the iconic if pointless exposition in the game room (after which he gases all of the gangsters which he just spent the last twenty minutes showing off his diorama skills) Goldfinger has mint juleps with Bond while explaining his plan to irradiate the Federal Reserve gold depository at Ft. Knox.

Yes, Bond films (aside from the 2006 _Casino Royale_) are pretty formulaic. Even _On Her Majesty’s Secret Service_ and _From Russia With Love_, which deviate somewhat from the standard formula have very typical elements. (_OHMSS_ is basically a romance plot wrapped around a standard Bond plot, and _FRWL_ is kind of a road-tripping Bond movie with some extra twists. But it’s a formula that has successfully brought in money to Eon Productions for going on fifty years, so I doubt they’re going to fiddle with it too much. Nobody wants to see Bond essay George Smiley or engage in philosophical meanderings about the perfideous nature of espionage and the people who engage in it _a la_ _The Good Shepherd_.

Stranger

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-identify-this-james-bond-movie/685787/27 "2014-04-10T15:49:21Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> That one always bugged me. Bond never even knew he’d cost her her life. It brought it home to me about his character-he probably wouldn’t have even cared. Talk about ‘treating women as disposable pleasures’!

Well, it wasn’t the first time a female pilot in the employ of the bad guy was seduced by Bond, then later fed to man-eating animals in a movie involving space travel.

Ref: _You Only Live Twice_.

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-identify-this-james-bond-movie/685787/28 "2014-04-10T15:51:31Z")

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> I enjoyed the line in Casino Royale where the bartender asked Bond if he wanted his martini shaken or stirred, and Bond replied, “Do I look like I give a damn?”

Actually, my favorite scene is the exchange in the dining car between Bond and Vesper, where she pretty much subverts the myth of Bond as hero.

_By the cut of your suit, you went to Oxford or wherever. Naturally you think human beings dress like that. But you wear it with such disdain, my guess is you didn’t come from money, and your school friends never let you forget it. Which means that you were at that school by the grace of someone else’s charity: hence that chip on your shoulder. And since you’re first thought about me ran to “orphan,” that’s what I’d say you are. Oh, you are? I like this poker thing. And that makes perfect sense! Since MI6 looks for maladjusted young men, who give little thought to sacrificing others in order to protect queen and country. You know… former SAS types with easy smiles and expensive watches. Rolex?_

Stranger

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> Nobody wants to see Bond essay George Smiley or engage in philosophical meanderings about the perfideous nature of espionage and the people who engage in it _a la_ _The Good Shepherd_.

I once saw a Bond TV Special, might even have been before AVtAK, where Roger Moore was talking about the character, and how Bond films just are not the kind of film where the action stops and Bond says, “You know, as a boy I was never allowed to play with toys.” Introspection is not his strong suit.

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That’s why we have [Archer](http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2012/02/09/archer_s_sterling_archer_life_of_a_superspy_soul_of_a_child.html).

Stranger

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> I believe it was called _Austin Powers International Man of Mystery_.

In one alternate ending of the first Austin Powers movie, the lair of Dr. Evil is destroyed in the middle of the desert, some debris fall around Austin and Vanessa… and they are in a raft at sea.

After Vanessa wonders how come they ended up there, Austin turns to Vanessa and says “This is how ALL my movies end, baby!”

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-identify-this-james-bond-movie/685787/32 "2014-04-10T16:38:33Z")

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> [@Battle\_Pope](#):
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> I was thinking either _ThunderBourne_ or _For True Lies Only_

_In Like Our Man Flint on Her Majesty’s Secret Service_

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-identify-this-james-bond-movie/685787/33 "2014-04-10T16:40:23Z")

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Each movie typically has three Bond girls: the first one ends up dead, the second tries to kill him, and the third he gets intimate with at the end.

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> _In Like Our Man Flint on Her Majesty’s Secret Service_

Dr. Incredible?  
The Silencers Who Loved Me?

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-identify-this-james-bond-movie/685787/35 "2014-04-10T16:54:20Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> Actually, in a few scenes after the iconic if pointless exposition in the game room (after which he gases all of the gangsters which he just spent the last twenty minutes showing off his diorama skills) Goldfinger has mint juleps with Bond while explaining his plan to irradiate the Federal Reserve gold depository at Ft. Knox.

That sounds more like it. I am better at visual memory than auditory so I was quite clearly seeing Bond peeking thru the model. I remembered only vaguely something about the issue of how difficult the gold would be to remove, but I wasn’t sure if that was in the novel or movie. Now I see that it had to be in the movie. The novel was a straight heist job.

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-identify-this-james-bond-movie/685787/36 "2014-04-10T23:07:52Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> Actually, my favorite scene is the exchange in the dining car between Bond and Vesper, where she pretty much subverts the myth of Bond as hero.
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> _By the cut of your suit, you went to Oxford or wherever. Naturally you think human beings dress like that. But you wear it with such disdain, my guess is you didn’t come from money, and your school friends never let you forget it. Which means that you were at that school by the grace of someone else’s charity: hence that chip on your shoulder. And since you’re first thought about me ran to “orphan,” that’s what I’d say you are. Oh, you are? I like this poker thing. And that makes perfect sense! Since MI6 looks for maladjusted young men, who give little thought to sacrificing others in order to protect queen and country. You know… former SAS types with easy smiles and expensive watches. Rolex?_
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> Stranger

And then Bond corrects her. It’s an _Omega_.

“Beautiful”, she replies, her voice utterly dripping in bored sarcasm, as if she should have really been expected to give a shit _which_ brand of expensive watch Bond chose to wear. I love that scene. Also, fun fact, Vesper Lynd, yet another punny name, just not an innuendo one. It only makes sense if you try to say it with a bad German accent though.

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