# Help Me Like Yankee Food

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-like-yankee-food/326185>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 14, 2005, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-like-yankee-food/326185 "2005-10-14T04:58:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Pixiesnix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Pixiesnix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pixiesnix)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-like-yankee-food/326185/101 "2005-10-19T05:03:01Z")

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> **Douge Bowe** wrote:  
> You say you’re from the South and you are not familiar of lacing your cornbread with Black Strap Molassas?

Indeed not, sir. Perhaps it’s a custom that hasn’t reached Arkansas yet.

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> We can talk about crumbling it up in buttermilk in a different thread.

My Dad does that, but I’ve never tried it. I like my buttermilk straight.

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> **carnivorousplant** wrote:  
> He ate peppers on the side that would kill (or seriously injure) a Yankee or even a normal person.

My granddad did that, too. Dad said he’d be crying and sweating, and chomping them down.

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> **silenus** wrote:  
> Cornbread as a base for beans

Oddly enough, that’s what we’re having for supper.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-like-yankee-food/326185/102 "2005-10-19T12:26:17Z")

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> [@Dogzilla](#):
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> not that black eyed peas nonsense (those things are nasty)

My seconds shall call on you in the morning, Sir.

🙂

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-like-yankee-food/326185/103 "2005-10-19T12:28:40Z")

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> [@Trunk](#):
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> They say the Mainer’s spice cabinet is salt, pepper and ketchup.

All at once may make one’s head explode, so be careful in combination.

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-like-yankee-food/326185/104 "2005-10-19T12:35:41Z")

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May I nominate the [Amato’s](http://www.amatos.com/) Italian Sandwich?

No infernal “grinders”.

No steenking “hoagies”.

Don’t even call it a sub. It’s an _Italian_, the only real one in existence. It’s gotta have the pepper and the right amount of oil. And the right pickles. Hell, it’s the simplest thing I’ve ever seen that no one else can duplicate.

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**Author:** ![TommyTutone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c4cdca/32.png) [@TommyTutone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TommyTutone)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-like-yankee-food/326185/105 "2005-10-19T13:45:57Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> I was surprised at sefood in New Hampshire. It was like Red Lobster with yesterday’s tea.

Keep in mind that New Hampshire only has about 16 miles of coastline so their fishing communities are non-existant. When it comes to seafood in NH, you might as well be in Texas.

And if you dared eat at Yoken’s in Portsmouth (thar’ she blows), popular stop by tour buses full of retired folks, you would wish you were eating seafood in Texas instead.

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-like-yankee-food/326185/106 "2005-10-19T14:32:11Z")

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Ayuh, but Yokens ain’t heah no moah, got bought out by some infernal fromawayer development company and they’ve torn it down and are putting in a friggin’ _hotel_

i hates fromawayers…

and going back to maple syrup, you haven’t had good maple until you’ve boiled it yourself, we’ve got 4 maple trees on the front lawn that have sap that boils down to grade AA dark amber, MMMMMMM…

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-like-yankee-food/326185/107 "2005-10-19T14:41:40Z")

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> [@bouv](#):
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> and Manhatten style clam chowder is, in fact, a tool of the devil and should be avoided at all costs

HERESY! Manhatten clam (soup/chowder, whatever) is a far better meal than the New England variety. Though I could be a touch biased in being from Jersey ;).

Oh, and anywhere OUTSIDE of Buffalo, they are called Buffalo wings. Only in buffalo are they simply refered to as ‘wings’. Though they are quite Yankee indeed.

And, **light strand** , I’d counter the Massachusetts pizza with good New Jersey pizza (preferably from the boardwalk). That’s God’s gift to humanity, right there. First thing I do when I visit my folks on the Jersey Shore is get some pizzaria pizza. Nothing better.

Speaking of the boardwalk, I miss funnel cake and zeppolis down in Atlanta as well (though I have had funnel cake a few times, but not nearly often enough :D).

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-like-yankee-food/326185/108 "2005-10-19T14:52:05Z")

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> [@ISiddiqui](#):
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> HERESY! Manhatten clam (soup/chowder, whatever) is a far better meal than the New England variety. Though I could be a touch biased in being from Jersey ;).

You clearly have been abusing crack cocaine. You do not put _tomatos_, or, worse, effing _carrots_ in a chowder, for the love of all that is right and good!! That’s…that’s, like, worse than putting catsup on a hot dog! It’s like putting peanut butter on a hot dog!

If the Manhattanites would simply admit that whatever that shit is, it isn’t in any way , shape, or form, even remotely a _chowder_, all would be forgiven. Call it a “stew”, perhaps, if you must utter a name at all in polite company. As it is, Manhattan “clam chowder” is an affront. It’s a gigantic brown smear on the name of good chowders everywhere.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-like-yankee-food/326185/109 "2005-10-19T15:03:10Z")

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> [@ISiddiqui](#):
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> Speaking of the boardwalk, I miss funnel cake and zeppolis down in Atlanta as well (though I have had funnel cake a few times, but not nearly often enough :D).

Mrs. “Long Island” Plant does not complain of the funnel cakes they sell at the zoo, nor even the…dare I say it…store bought mix at Kroger.

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**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2005, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-like-yankee-food/326185/110 "2005-10-20T02:00:21Z")

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> [@MacTech](#):
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> and going back to maple syrup, you haven’t had good maple until you’ve boiled it yourself, we’ve got 4 maple trees on the front lawn that have sap that boils down to grade AA dark amber, MMMMMMM…

\*\*\*\* hijack alert \*\*\*\*

I knew a dentist who’d boiled his own maple syrup.

Umm… To protect the identity of those mentioned here, I’m going to call him Levi.

Levi was the sort of person who makes those of us who hate racial, political or religious stereotypes cringe. Levi had been my father’s gradschool roommate. My mother first met Levi before she met my father, because they were living in the same building. And, well, Levi came up to her door one evening, and told her:

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> I’ve turned off your hot water heater. I was going through the basement this evening and noticed that it was leaking water a signifigant rate. Now, I’ve called the handyman and it will be fixed, tomorrow, but I knew you wouldn’t want to pay to heat all that water dripping onto the floor.

My mother claims she was so shocked by this behavior she didn’t do any more than nod when he left. For some time, after that she even avoided ‘those weirdos.’ Levi is a good man, loving father, and all that. I don’t want to imply he’s less than that - but his quirks are a bit hard to take at times. 😉

Levi’s habits continued well into his professional life. He eventually became part owner of a dental health building in eastern Mass, and killed off the whole several year-old tank of tropical fish that one office had, by turning the heat down in said office for the winter holidays. :smack:

One spring my mother saw him stopping at the town office for the town his practice was in, after hours. She was going to stop over and say something, but he seemed a bit furtive. Then she realized that this was after the town offices had closed for the day. Levi went to the back of his car, and got something out of the trunk. Then went to the colonial era cemetary next to the town offices. And did something at the tree, there. Then came back, put something into the back of his car, and carried something else back out of the trunk of his car, and back to… one of the old maple trees in the colonial era cemetary.

Yes, Levi was collecting maple sap from the cemetary. :rolleyes: 😃

Only Levi.

But, at least it was good New England maple syrup he was making.  
**major hijack over**

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2005, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-like-yankee-food/326185/111 "2005-10-20T17:16:17Z")

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> [@ISiddiqui](#):
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> … and besides, I’m still peeved over what you Southerners call ‘pizza’ ;).

New Orleans has (I’m pretty sure it wasn’t affected by the hurricane or the flood) a great pizzaria. Pizza at Mama Rosa’s is like having New York-style and Chicago-style at the same time. Best of both worlds!

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**Author:** ![Exgineer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Exgineer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exgineer)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2005, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-like-yankee-food/326185/112 "2005-10-20T17:57:32Z")

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> [@ISiddiqui](#):
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> Oh, and anywhere OUTSIDE of Buffalo, they are called Buffalo wings. Only in buffalo are they simply refered to as ‘wings’. Though they are quite Yankee indeed.

No, **bouv** is right. They’re just called “wings.”

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2005, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-like-yankee-food/326185/113 "2005-10-20T18:07:45Z")

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> [@Loopydude](#):
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> You clearly have been abusing crack cocaine. You do not put _tomatos_, or, worse, effing _carrots_ in a chowder, for the love of all that is right and good!! That’s…that’s, like, worse than putting catsup on a hot dog! It’s like putting peanut butter on a hot dog!
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> If the Manhattanites would simply admit that whatever that shit is, it isn’t in any way , shape, or form, even remotely a _chowder_, all would be forgiven. Call it a “stew”, perhaps, if you must utter a name at all in polite company. As it is, Manhattan “clam chowder” is an affront. It’s a gigantic brown smear on the name of good chowders everywhere.

They could toss in a few chunks of fish and call it [bouillabaisse](http://fooddownunder.com/cgi-bin/recipe.cgi?r=32371).

Anyway, my gripe with Manhattan “clam chowder” is the absence of potatoes. I can put up with the tomato-based red broth but, for me, THERE MUST BE POTATOES IN CHOWDER! (Although, to be fair, a few weeks ago I did have a pretty good Manhattan-style “clam chowder” at a seaside restaurant in Depot Bay, Oregon that didn’t have any potatoes in it. The silver-dollar size pieces of clam in the “chowder” made up for the absence of spuds.)

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**Author:** ![Exgineer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Exgineer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exgineer)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2005, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-like-yankee-food/326185/114 "2005-10-20T18:44:12Z")

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Two sweeping, possibly unfounded generalizations about regional food preferences:

Southern Californians put avocados in everything.

Upstate New Yorkers put cheese on everything.

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**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2005, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-like-yankee-food/326185/115 "2005-10-20T18:46:08Z")

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> [@Exgineer](#):
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> No, **bouv** is right. They’re just called “wings.”

Again, though, that’s not the same everywhere. True, they might be just called “wings” in areas other than Buffalo, but there are other areas north of the Mason-Dixon that call them “Buffalo Wings”.

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2005, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-like-yankee-food/326185/116 "2005-10-20T18:52:40Z")

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> [@zweisamkeit](#):
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> Again, though, that’s not the same everywhere. True, they might be just called “wings” in areas other than Buffalo, but there are other areas north of the Mason-Dixon that call them “Buffalo Wings”.

Yeah, but if they do call them that, it’s a good sign not to by any wings there. 😛

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