# Help me locate this poem from my childhood

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** poetry\
**Created:** [November 18, 2014, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-locate-this-poem-from-my-childhood/704918 "2014-11-18T00:24:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-locate-this-poem-from-my-childhood/704918/1 "2014-11-18T00:24:23Z")

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When I was a kid I had a record album of kids’ poetry. There was one hilarious little poem that went something like this:

I know that you know, and he knows you  
And she knows the he knows, I know that is true  
But does he know that she knows that I know too (etc)

Something like that, anyway. My recollection, which may be faulty, is that the record album was predominantly light yellow and had a whimsical drawing of a face on it. The publisher was “Spoken Arts” and the poem was by John Ciardi, who was reading his own poem.

But I’ll be damned if I can find such a poem anywhere, although clearly it is entirely consistent with the Ciardi oeuvre. HELP!

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**Author:** ![CT\_Damsel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CT\_Damsel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CT_Damsel)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-locate-this-poem-from-my-childhood/704918/2 "2014-11-18T03:10:28Z")

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[This site appears to have all his poems](http://www.poetryfoundation.org/bio/john-ciardi#about)

I have not found it yet but I am still clicking on the links

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-locate-this-poem-from-my-childhood/704918/3 "2014-11-19T03:49:02Z")

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Thanks - it is not there.

I wonder if the author was Ogden Nash? I’ll have to search on that basis…

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**Author:** ![Ogilview](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/51bf81/32.png) [@Ogilview](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogilview)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-locate-this-poem-from-my-childhood/704918/4 "2025-12-22T15:28:00Z")

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[https://www.discogs.com/release/20041759-John-Ciardi-You-Know-Who](https://www.discogs.com/release/20041759-John-Ciardi-You-Know-Who)

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**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-locate-this-poem-from-my-childhood/704918/5 "2025-12-22T15:38:15Z")

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Welcome !  
Excellent find !

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-locate-this-poem-from-my-childhood/704918/6 "2025-12-22T15:52:42Z")

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11 years is not one of our better times for answering a question, but we’ll take the win anyway.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-locate-this-poem-from-my-childhood/704918/7 "2025-12-22T16:10:06Z")

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And it’s remarkable that the OP, our @CairoCarol, is still around!

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-locate-this-poem-from-my-childhood/704918/8 "2025-12-22T16:25:12Z")

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Wow! That is absolutely it. Amazing, thank you @Ogilview . Also thanks to @EinsteinsHund for summoning me.

I was wrong about the cover design, but right about the color. That brings back such memories.

ETA: And I see the cover art was by Edward Gorey. I wouldn’t have recognized the name as a child, but now I appreciate it.

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**Author:** ![Ogilview](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/51bf81/32.png) [@Ogilview](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogilview)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-locate-this-poem-from-my-childhood/704918/9 "2025-12-22T17:00:52Z")

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I also grew up listening to John Ciardi children’s poetry. When I was in college I had the chance to meet him and he thought it was pretty funny that I knew him primarily from his children’s work - because he was a serious poet. I still know all the words to ‘I said to a bug in the sink.’
