# Help me remember this Voyager episode **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 13, 2004, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-remember-this-voyager-episode/228970 "2004-02-13T02:20:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2004, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-remember-this-voyager-episode/228970/1 "2004-02-13T02:20:01Z")
In the worse captains thread, Voyager comes up quite a few times. There was an episode where the crew encountered an alternate version of themselves. The other ship was in pretty bad shape. A link was established between the two ships. Ultimately, the regular Ensign Kim get blowed up real good. The alternate-Janeway gives up her Ensign Kim since her ship is doomed anyway. This means that for the rest of the show’s run, it’s the alternate-Kim on the regular Voyager and nothing else is ever said about it (IIRC). I can’t remember the title even though I have all the eps on tape. ---
**Author:** ![Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laughing_Lagomorph)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2004, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-remember-this-voyager-episode/228970/2 "2004-02-13T02:49:15Z")
Sorry I can’t help you with a name but I also remember a baby had been born on Voyager and died soon after birth so alternate-Janeway sends Harry over with the baby too. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2004, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-remember-this-voyager-episode/228970/3 "2004-02-13T02:51:04Z")
> [@Laughing Lagomorph](#): > > Sorry I can’t help you with a name but I also remember a baby had been born on Voyager and died soon after birth so alternate-Janeway sends Harry over with the baby too. Yes! The baby had some sort of spikes on her head. That delivery HAD to hurt! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2004, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-remember-this-voyager-episode/228970/4 "2004-02-13T02:52:08Z")
[Deadlock](http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/library/episodes/VOY/detail/68892.html). In that episode, not only is Harry Kim the duplicate, but so is Naomi Wildman (this episode featured the character’s birth, as well as the only time she wasn’t an irritating little git, a symptom of all later appearances). The duplication seems perfect enough, so there was never any reason to make a big deal about it. Similarly, there was a late _DS9_ episode in which the “real” O’Brien dies, to be replaced by a time-tossed O’Brien from six hours in the future, or something like that. Whatever differences there may have been are trivial enough to have no effect beyond the given episode. ---
**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2004, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-remember-this-voyager-episode/228970/5 "2004-02-13T02:58:18Z")
Right, it wasn’t like a mirror-universe thing. The two Voyagers branched off at the beginning of the episode. SPOILER… Also, you’re misremembering what happened at the end. The “other” ship was in pretty bad shape, but it was the other ship that survived. The ship in good shape was the one that self-destructed. I thought it was a somewhat interesting twist ending. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2004, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-remember-this-voyager-episode/228970/6 "2004-02-13T03:11:55Z")
Found it! It was “Deadlock”. Thank you [TVTome.com](http://TVTome.com)! ---
**Author:** ![Teelo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8491ac/32.png) [@Teelo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teelo)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2004, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-remember-this-voyager-episode/228970/7 "2004-02-13T07:12:55Z")
I don’t care what most people say, I think Voyager was a very entertaining show. And I love twist endings like the one in Deadlock. ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2004, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-remember-this-voyager-episode/228970/8 "2004-02-13T12:55:54Z")
Yeah, I was quite suprised about which ship survived. Of course, by the next episode Voyager was in perfect working order again. (That always bugged me about that show. After getting blasted to within an inch of death a zillion times, and with no Federation space stations to stop at, that ship still looked as good as new at the end of the journey.) ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2004, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-remember-this-voyager-episode/228970/9 "2004-02-13T14:18:49Z")
I’m trying my best to forget Voyager. ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2004, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-remember-this-voyager-episode/228970/10 "2004-02-13T16:55:49Z")
I thought this was a great episode until the epilogue with Harry and Chakotay. OK, a couple hundred of your friends and colleagues just lost their lives, so instead of mourning for them, you jovially wander down the hall and say, “gee, isn’t it weird that all my friends are dead?” –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2004, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-remember-this-voyager-episode/228970/11 "2004-02-13T23:44:02Z")
Was this episode the first time we got to see Janeway’s salivating eagerness to hit the self-destruct button? That seemed to be her backup solution to every other problem. “Captain, we’re out of chicken salad!” “Prepare the self destruct!” ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2004, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-remember-this-voyager-episode/228970/12 "2004-02-13T23:47:06Z")
> [@Bryan Ekers](#): > > Was this episode the first time we got to see Janeway’s salivating eagerness to hit the self-destruct button? That seemed to be her backup solution to every other problem. > > “Captain, we’re out of chicken salad!” > “Prepare the self destruct!” And why didn’t Voyager require three officers to enable the self-destruct? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2004, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-remember-this-voyager-episode/228970/13 "2004-02-13T23:56:25Z")
> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#): > > And why didn’t Voyager require three officers to enable the self-destruct? Budget cuts.