# Help me respond to an anti-Muslim forward

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-respond-to-an-anti-muslim-forward/514609>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 21, 2009, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-respond-to-an-anti-muslim-forward/514609 "2009-10-21T15:02:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-respond-to-an-anti-muslim-forward/514609/41 "2009-10-23T12:54:07Z")

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> [@taxi78cab](#):
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> She knows that there are decent Muslims out there but sees more bad than good and wonders why the good/moderate Muslims don’t speak out against the bad parts.

Probably because “circling the wagons” is a very human thing to do when you feel that a group you belong to is under attack by outsiders. If someone says something unflattering about a member of your family, you probably get defensive. You aren’t likely to agree with them, even if in another context you would admit that the unflattering thing they said is true.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-respond-to-an-anti-muslim-forward/514609/42 "2009-10-23T13:40:03Z")

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> [@Aquila\_Be](#):
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> So, provide us with a link to a YouTube of an innocuous Islamic sermon.

You are the person who made the “typical” claim. I invite you, as is the usual way on the SDMB, to back up your statement.

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**Author:** ![Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4da419/32.png) [@Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gala_Matrix_Fire)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-respond-to-an-anti-muslim-forward/514609/43 "2009-10-24T16:28:10Z")

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A YouTube comment thread is not representative of anything except morons who can’t type or think within normal parameters.

It’s not even slightly hard to find Muslims [speaking ag](http://www.juancole.com/2005/07/friedman-wrong-about-muslims-again-and.html)ai[nst terrorism](http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php) if you look for it. Even the popular could media could do it, if they chose to.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-respond-to-an-anti-muslim-forward/514609/44 "2009-10-24T17:24:38Z")

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> [@dhkendall](#):
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> Being a Christian myself, I feel that my religion has at least as much to answer for as the Muslims (possibly more, as we have a 600 year head start on them) - the Crusades, **the Holocaust (well, a bit of a grey area if that was a “Christian crime”)**, televangelism, forced conversions, homophobia, xenophobia, and a whole lot of other phobia.

No, it’s not even a grey area. The Christian religion bears no responsibility whatsoever for the holocaust. Pan-Germanic Nationalism has nothing to do with Christianity at all. Trying to blame the Catholic Pope for not doing enough is also lame ahistorical trash.

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**Author:** ![chique](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@chique](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chique)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-respond-to-an-anti-muslim-forward/514609/45 "2009-10-29T00:02:01Z")

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> [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](#):
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> That’s odd, I have no problem copy pasting from Snopes. Maybe you need to turn off javascript. I have it off as default.

Sorry for the late reply but after I read this…well.

I’ve been playing with that option A LOT the last few days (Opera has a nifty function that turns it off for an entire domain) and have come to the conclusion that I love you.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-respond-to-an-anti-muslim-forward/514609/46 "2009-10-29T03:20:44Z")

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> [@Aquila\_Be](#):
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> Well, that sounds reasonable.
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> So, provide us with a link to a YouTube of an innocuous Islamic sermon.
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> Bonus points if you can find one full of love and tolerance.

Hm.

Not Youtube, but the first [Google](http://navedz.wordpress.com/2009/01/13/friday-khutbah-sermons-mankinds-need-for-islam/)hit I found. Pretty much talks about why Islam is so awesome.

Here’s a [Youtube video.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sYks2TgNmI)

Here’s [another one.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUz4QX_2RAU)

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