# Help me solve this Hollywood Blind Item **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 8, 2011, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-solve-this-hollywood-blind-item/577730 "2011-04-08T22:45:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2011, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-solve-this-hollywood-blind-item/577730/21 "2011-04-09T03:03:23Z")
I was thinking Alex and Emma. Kate Hudson Luke Wilson Director: Rob Reiner Wilson didn’t get his start from TV, and its hardly a perfect fit for other reasons. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2011, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-solve-this-hollywood-blind-item/577730/22 "2011-04-09T03:48:02Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > 😕 I thought _Bosom Buddies_ launched his career? Maybe the “incredibly successful” comment was just an exaggeration? > > How about Kevin Smith? He’s fat. Could he possibly fit? > [@acsenray](#): > > Did you miss my comments on _Remington Steele_? The whole premise of Brosnan’s character was that he was a bumbler. He wasn’t what I think of as a bumbler, he was just not skilled at being a detective - he was still suave and sophisticated. Bumbler implies clumsy, awkward, dumb, Woody Harrellson. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2011, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-solve-this-hollywood-blind-item/577730/23 "2011-04-09T04:29:59Z")
> [@drastic\_quench](#): > > I was thinking Alex and Emma. > > Kate Hudson > Luke Wilson > Director: Rob Reiner > > Wilson didn’t get his start from TV, and its hardly a perfect fit for other reasons. Also because Kate Hudson is not busty. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2011, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-solve-this-hollywood-blind-item/577730/24 "2011-04-09T06:06:43Z")
What about Will Ferrell? He was only on SNL but he was definitely “incredibly successful” on that, and he’s a charming bumbler in most movies. Though my vote is for Steve Carell with fat-slob-director being thrown in as a red herring. Oliver Stone and Kevin Smith are the only famous fat directors I can think of but they haven’t directed many billion dollar popcorn movies in the past decade. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2011, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-solve-this-hollywood-blind-item/577730/25 "2011-04-09T06:26:28Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > What about Will Ferrell? He was only on SNL but he was definitely “incredibly successful” on that, and he’s a charming bumbler in most movies. > Though my vote is for Steve Carell with fat-slob-director being thrown in as a red herring. Oliver Stone and Kevin Smith are the only famous fat directors I can think of but they haven’t directed many billion dollar popcorn movies in the past decade. Well, except the story in question is about the director, not the actor. The actor and actress are just there to narrow it down. I say with 98.7% certainty that it’s Brett Ratner. OF course, it could just be all made up, but it’s at least a fictional Brett Ratner. After the Sunset matches the description, he knew Munn when she was just starting (as Lisa), and he’s, well, a [douchebag.](http://disgrasian.com/2009/07/when-worlds-collide-18/) ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2011, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-solve-this-hollywood-blind-item/577730/26 "2011-04-09T12:48:30Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > He wasn’t what I think of as a bumbler, he was just not skilled at being a detective - he was still suave and sophisticated. Bumbler implies clumsy, awkward, dumb, Woody Harrellson. I guess only Munn knows what she meant, but Steele in my mind fits the description perfectly. He was suave and sophisticated only superficially. Most if the time he was doing things like screwing things up because he was unaware of facts or procedure, overplaying his hand based on his overconfidence, simply failing to carry off a ruse and thus screwing up a plan, and very often getting found out and clocked. Sounds like the definition of charming bumbler, certainly more charming bumbler than Woody, who was more naive and dumb then either charming or bumbling. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2011, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-solve-this-hollywood-blind-item/577730/27 "2011-04-09T13:52:37Z")
I would have to say it sounds like Brett Ratner is the guy. I think that solves the mystery. BTW she also says the director forcibly dry humped the starlet in the story to show the lead actor the level of romance he wanted in the scene… ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2011, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-solve-this-hollywood-blind-item/577730/28 "2011-04-09T15:34:21Z")
> [@acsenray](#): > > I guess only Munn knows what she meant, but Steele in my mind fits the description perfectly. He was suave and sophisticated only superficially. Most if the time he was doing things like screwing things up because he was unaware of facts or procedure, overplaying his hand based on his overconfidence, simply failing to carry off a ruse and thus screwing up a plan, and very often getting found out and clocked. Sounds like the definition of charming bumbler, certainly more charming bumbler than Woody, who was more naive and dumb then either charming or bumbling. I see. I’d like to watch the show again sometime. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-solve-this-hollywood-blind-item/577730/29 "2011-04-11T01:14:13Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > She describes the female lead as “small, busty, A list Paparazzi bait.” I don’t read this as an A-list actress. I read it as an A-list paparazzi magnet. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-solve-this-hollywood-blind-item/577730/30 "2011-11-05T14:03:28Z")
I’m resurrecting this older thread because we now have confirmation that it was indeed Brett Ratner and After the Sunset. Looks like Enalzi got it right! Here is Brett at his [douchiest](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LM05gXZgwo) (the part relevent to this discussion begins at about the 3:45 mark). ---
**Author:** ![Anamorphic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anamorphic/32/3057_2.png) [@Anamorphic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anamorphic)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-solve-this-hollywood-blind-item/577730/31 "2011-11-05T15:01:40Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Okay, so I read on IMDB that there’s a rumor it’s Brett Ratner. He’s always seemed like the kinda guy who would do something like that. He’s the first name who popped into my mind when I read “slobby fat rich director”. ---
**Author:** ![MakeSweetPassionateSenseToMe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3e96dc/32.png) [@MakeSweetPassionateSenseToMe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MakeSweetPassionateSenseToMe)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-solve-this-hollywood-blind-item/577730/32 "2011-11-12T06:35:36Z")
The mystery is at long last put to rest thanks to a quote of Ratner’s I was linked to via [Daniel O’Brien](http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-5-most-baffling-career-moves-in-hollywood/) at [Cracked.com](http://Cracked.com). The quote itself came from a lengthy essay describing the bloggers distinct hatred for one [Brett Ratner](http://www.greatplainsexaminer.com/2011/11/08/a-dissertation-on-my-dislike-for-brett-ratner/) > [@](#): > > I used to date Olivia Munn, I’ll be honest with everyone here. But when she was ‘Lisa.’ She wasn’t Asian back then,” he said. “She was hanging out on my set of ‘After the Sunset,’ I banged her a few times, but I forgot her. Because she changed her name. I didn’t know it was the same person and so when she auditioned for me for a TV show, I forgot her, she got pissed off, and so she made up all these stories about me eating shrimp and masturbating in my trailer. And she talked about my shortcomings.” - Brett Ratner. Turns out that man is about as classy as child rape humor, and fully fits the description set forth here…what a bizarre and terrible personality. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-solve-this-hollywood-blind-item/577730/33 "2011-11-12T15:08:37Z")
This is also the same week he resigned from producing the Oscars after making his briefly famous “Rehearsal is for fags” comment. This has created a right wing blogger circle jerk calling Hollywood hypocritical for assaulting traditional values but unable to extend the same lenience to gays, but they don’t seem to grasp the “remember your audience” part. The old joke that “Oscars=Gay Super Bowl” has some merit and much to do with the resignation; it’d be kind of like somebody who’s doing a benefit for PETA admitting he likes going to bullfights. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-solve-this-hollywood-blind-item/577730/34 "2011-11-12T15:40:44Z")
> [@MakeSweetPassionateSenseToMe](#): > > The mystery is at long last put to rest thanks to a quote of Ratner’s I was linked to via [Daniel O’Brien](http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-5-most-baffling-career-moves-in-hollywood/) at [Cracked.com](http://Cracked.com). The quote itself came from a lengthy essay describing the bloggers distinct hatred for one [Brett Ratner](http://www.greatplainsexaminer.com/2011/11/08/a-dissertation-on-my-dislike-for-brett-ratner/) He went on Howard Stern a few days ago and admitted he was making the whole thing up. He apparently never “banged” Olivia Munn. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-solve-this-hollywood-blind-item/577730.md?page=1)