# Help me understand "Crungus" and "Loab" **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [September 8, 2022, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-understand-crungus-and-loab/971234 "2022-09-08T18:42:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-understand-crungus-and-loab/971234/21 "2022-11-02T01:05:26Z")
> [@BwanaBob](#): > > Anyone try entering “Leopold and Loeb” Someone has now. [[Album] imgur.com ![](https://i.imgur.com/kMvhfYj.png?fb "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/a/q1Q1PAF) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-understand-crungus-and-loab/971234/22 "2024-01-16T20:57:35Z")
> **[AI Image Pioneer Behind Infamous 'Loab' Character Quits Industry](https://petapixel.com/2024/01/16/ai-image-pioneer-behind-infamous-loab-character-quits-industry/)** > > Loab is a terrifying concept that's scared a lot of people. ---
**Author:** ![EnolaStraight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@EnolaStraight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EnolaStraight)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-understand-crungus-and-loab/971234/23 "2024-01-18T02:45:22Z")
Looks like a really rough Kate Jackson in need of a Retinol treatment. ---
**Author:** ![EnolaStraight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@EnolaStraight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EnolaStraight)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2024, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-understand-crungus-and-loab/971234/24 "2024-01-21T15:05:37Z")
I’m taking a look at this image I call The Album Cover: [Screen-Shot-2022-11-29-at-8.18.29-PM.png (1280×1292) (wp.com)](https://i0.wp.com/boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Screen-Shot-2022-11-29-at-8.18.29-PM.png?fit=1&resize=620%2C4000&ssl=1) attempting to decipher the “words” the AI expect us to read. LOAB ReSBON VeJ…iam loeraer UCASHRAU TOO via night cbanioid mia le no _vaguely germanic tinged with french?_ ---
**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2024, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-understand-crungus-and-loab/971234/25 "2024-01-21T17:56:49Z")
Is there any particular reason why the A I uses fake language rather than English? ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-understand-crungus-and-loab/971234/26 "2024-01-22T01:25:08Z")
> [@EnolaStraight](#): > > I’m taking a look at this image I call The Album Cover: [![](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/QjIAAOSwJ1ZgLWdb/s-l1200.jpg) ](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/QjIAAOSwJ1ZgLWdb/s-l1200.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-understand-crungus-and-loab/971234/27 "2024-01-22T01:54:25Z")
> [@furryman](#): > > Is there any particular reason why the A I uses fake language rather than English? Because the AI doesn’t know what “language” or “English” mean on an abstract level. All it knows is it should draw lines and squiggles that have certain characteristics, so it draws some. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-understand-crungus-and-loab/971234/28 "2024-01-22T22:20:46Z")
> [@furryman](#): > > Is there any particular reason why the A I uses fake language rather than English? These particular AIs didn’t know any language. They were like illiterate kids drawing what text looks like to them. They’ve since improved, and now they can often get very close to correct English text in their output. ---
**Author:** ![EnolaStraight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@EnolaStraight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EnolaStraight)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-understand-crungus-and-loab/971234/29 "2024-01-23T13:05:43Z")
The pre-Loab image…DIGITA PNTICS…is quite easy to read. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-understand-crungus-and-loab/971234/30 "2024-01-23T13:41:17Z")
So you’re saying, pntics ensued? ---
**Author:** ![EnolaStraight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@EnolaStraight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EnolaStraight)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-understand-crungus-and-loab/971234/31 "2024-01-24T00:51:38Z")
(((golf clap))) Seriously, though. “I have no mouth, and I must scream” Maybe, the images of Loab and Crungus are AI’s attempts to express panic and horror. ---
**Author:** ![EnolaStraight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@EnolaStraight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EnolaStraight)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-understand-crungus-and-loab/971234/32 "2024-01-25T17:51:31Z")
A related tangent: If negative prompt of Brando= Digita Pntics, and negative prompt of Digita Pintics = Loab, what is the negative prompt of Loab? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-understand-crungus-and-loab/971234.md?page=1)