# Help name an Evil Wizard.

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-name-an-evil-wizard/318409
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [August 24, 2005, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-name-an-evil-wizard/318409 "2005-08-24T13:04:49Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2005, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-name-an-evil-wizard/318409/21 "2005-08-24T15:58:28Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Amun Joi

Only if the villain is nuts.

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### Author: ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2005, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-name-an-evil-wizard/318409/22 "2005-08-24T16:03:17Z")

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Abughraib the Torturer.

Sailboat

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### Author: ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2005, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-name-an-evil-wizard/318409/23 "2005-08-24T16:03:18Z")

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Tim.

No, seriously, how about Schnozymandias?

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### Author: ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2005, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-name-an-evil-wizard/318409/24 "2005-08-24T16:34:37Z")

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Rhamsfell

Klin-ton

Bil-Ghats

Mur-dok

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### Author: ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2005, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-name-an-evil-wizard/318409/25 "2005-08-24T16:58:13Z")

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Dark Lord Bob.  
Chakroth

Chlamydius

Fangreth

Urgoloth

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### Author: ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2005, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-name-an-evil-wizard/318409/26 "2005-08-24T17:05:16Z")

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C. Montgomery Burns

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### Author: ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2005, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-name-an-evil-wizard/318409/27 "2005-08-24T17:11:14Z")

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> [@Madd Maxx](#):
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> Dark Lord Chuckles the Silly Piggy sounds sort of evil.

Maxx, you barbarian! How dare you steal a perfectly good name? :mad:  
😃

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### Author: ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2005, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-name-an-evil-wizard/318409/28 "2005-08-24T17:12:47Z")

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You buncha jokers.

Check out this [Egyptian-English dictionary](http://www.ancientsites.com/aw/Post/399761) for some fun ideas. Consider combining words and changing their spelling slightly:  
Battle Come Back: Re-akhet A’nen  
General: Imyermesha’  
Evil Leader: Bin Seshmew  
Servant of the Night: Bak Berek  
Sculptor of the Soul: Genoteh Ka  
Charming Cucumber Telegram: Ima Shespet Medjat

Daniel

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### Author: ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2005, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-name-an-evil-wizard/318409/29 "2005-08-24T17:25:44Z")

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I had a 2nd edition Necromancer who, after he became a lich, started going by The Master of the Living and the Dead. He would tell people they could just call him Master for short. I figure you could do something similar since it sounds like you’re going to have him be an undead also.

Of course, if your PCs are going to spend the time to research his true name, then forget everything I just said and call him Xanax. 😃

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### Author: ![Hung\_Mung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@Hung\_Mung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hung_Mung)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2005, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-name-an-evil-wizard/318409/30 "2005-08-24T17:29:28Z")

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Lur  
Syad  
Hath  
Ettan  
Diarmad is Celtic for sorrow.  
Keir is Celtic for dark.

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### Author: ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2005, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-name-an-evil-wizard/318409/31 "2005-08-24T18:05:22Z")

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[From the Seventh Sanctum Name Generator](http://www.seventhsanctum.com/index-name.php):

Lovcraftian Names  
B’mamasch  
Bhughom-sanai  
D’photlha  
D’rhalat  
Epha-botegth  
Lot’rlo  
Nilhaazh  
Ont-kelau  
Rscthal-ghur  
Rsthomei  
Rughu  
Schakepho  
Teggurug  
Ygornyita  
Yiqullotei

Evil-Sounding Names  
Anaendul  
Beldr  
Belirdrori  
Fanavarc  
Irchaeg  
Kang  
Mauru  
Melila  
Ngothiathabetu  
Orael  
Rird  
Sarc  
Thangro  
Turorglu  
Ugob

Angel/Demon Names  
Hohmlat  
Ahposat  
Hesdatoec  
Reat  
Ruzocnabiel  
Nederael  
Atotanon  
Litxasramon  
Zonlusmepiel  
Binbumsu  
Hitaneb  
Essahoah  
Amooth  
Ephoniel  
Raon

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### Author: ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2005, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-name-an-evil-wizard/318409/32 "2005-08-24T18:18:09Z")

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Mentok \<dramatic chord\> the Mind-Taker!

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### Author: ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2005, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-name-an-evil-wizard/318409/33 "2005-08-24T19:37:25Z")

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How 'bout Makar or Measse? Those were JRRT’s brother and sister war and blood loving Valar who were sympathetic to Melkor, but got edited out of the Silmarillion?

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### Author: ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2005, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-name-an-evil-wizard/318409/34 "2005-08-24T19:46:20Z")

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> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#):
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> How 'bout Makar or Measse? Those were JRRT’s brother and sister war and blood loving Valar who were sympathetic to Melkor, but got edited out of the Silmarillion?

Where did this info come from?  
I have never heard it before and I have most of the Histories of Middle Earth’s by Christopher & The Letters of JRRT.  
I am Curious not Challenging. I may need to buy another book.

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### Author: ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2005, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-name-an-evil-wizard/318409/35 "2005-08-24T19:57:13Z")

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> [@jrfranchi](#):
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> Where did this info come from?  
> I have never heard it before and I have most of the Histories of Middle Earth’s by Christopher & The Letters of JRRT.  
> I am Curious not Challenging. I may need to buy another book.

HOMES I, Book of Lost Tales. Not sure if they’re still in HOMES II, but they may well be.

To be a true Tolkien student, one must do more than _have_ HOMES, one must _read_ them. Repeatedly. 😃

QtM, still plowing thru “Sauron Defeated” for the 4th time, but planning on getting the rest of HOMES finished again before the new year.

Now, for extra credit, identify Omar-Amillo!! And Tevaldo, prince of cats! Then discuss Beren’s adventures as an elf!

Well? :dubious:

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### Author: ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2005, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-name-an-evil-wizard/318409/36 "2005-08-24T20:05:54Z")

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> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#):
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> Now, for extra credit, identify Omar-Amillo!!

_:: Points ::_  
That’s him.

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### Author: ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2005, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-name-an-evil-wizard/318409/37 "2005-08-24T20:13:16Z")

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Dubja the Obnox.  
Illiam Klin the Nymphomancer.

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### Author: ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2005, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-name-an-evil-wizard/318409/38 "2005-08-24T20:13:43Z")

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> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#):
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> HOMES I, Book of Lost Tales. Not sure if they’re still in HOMES II, but they may well be.
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> To be a true Tolkien student, one must do more than _have_ HOMES, one must _read_ them. Repeatedly. 😃
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> QtM, still plowing thru “Sauron Defeated” for the 4th time, but planning on getting the rest of HOMES finished again before the new year.
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> Now, for extra credit, identify Omar-Amillo!! And Tevaldo, prince of cats! Then discuss Beren’s adventures as an elf!
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> Well? :dubious:

I am in the presence of a true master, I have let my skills tarnish in the useless pursuit of other knowledge. Forgive this fallen one great master. Truly you should reside in Imladris. I will need to reread the HOMES I & II.

**Omar-Amillo** was to be the Vala of song. He was the greatest singer but was dropped as his singing would have made him the strongest Vala (closest to Eru). Manwe needed to be the most powerful.  
Did you mean \*\*Tevildo, Prince of Cats \*\* who was mentioned in Untold tales. He sounds very cool and I wonder if there was a tie in to Queen Beruthiel. He was to be a mighty servant of Sauron’s if I remember.  
Got me on Beren’s adventures as an Elf. Perhap you could supply more info.

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### Author: ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2005, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-name-an-evil-wizard/318409/39 "2005-08-24T22:43:16Z")

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> [@jrfranchi](#):
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> Got me on Beren’s adventures as an Elf. Perhap you could supply more info.

Not bad, not bad. You show potential. 😉

Read HOMES I and II and you should be current on Beren the elf’s adventures (they do include Tevildo/Tevaldo).

By the time you finish HOMES XII you should be able to write an essay describing all the alternative first names that Tolkien considered for Lobelia Sackville-Baggins, where they derived from, and why he eventually rejected them.

You should also be able to recount the details of Frodo’s (or was it Bingo’s, I forget) imprisonment by the evil Fangorn.

An essay of how our modern world would be different if Meriadoc had retained his original name of Marmaduke could be included for bonus geek points. Do you think we would have had a lame comic strip about a giant dog named Meriadoc?

Uber-geek points for the name of Fingolfin’s wife. More said points for the names of his 3 sisters.

But if you want to skip all that and have some sort of “fulfilling” normal life, I guess I’ll accept that.

Imladris is nice in the summer, but I prefer to winter at Hanstovanen. The chance to rub elbows with the _real_ powers, y’know! 🆒

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#### Post date: [August 24, 2005, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-name-an-evil-wizard/318409/40 "2005-08-24T22:44:05Z")

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