# Help three cops, get fired by your boss

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-three-cops-get-fired-by-your-boss/592210>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 10, 2011, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-three-cops-get-fired-by-your-boss/592210 "2011-08-10T16:32:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-three-cops-get-fired-by-your-boss/592210/1 "2011-08-10T16:32:44Z")

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“No good deed” and all that. Unbelieveable: [AOL - Finance News & Latest Business Headlines - AOL.com](http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2011/08/09/bus-driver-george-daw-fired-for-saving-3-police-officers/?ncid=webmail3)

But I suspect - I hope! - he’ll be reinstated soon.

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-three-cops-get-fired-by-your-boss/592210/2 "2011-08-10T18:36:28Z")

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I don’t know - unmarked car, and it sounds like the cops weren’t in uniform. It’s not like they were in danger for their lives or were in hot pursuit of an escaped felon - it was just that their car had flooded. If there’s a “no unauthorized passengers” rule, why should the fact that he picked up 3 cops instead of 3 bakers or 3 janitors make a difference?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-three-cops-get-fired-by-your-boss/592210/3 "2011-08-10T18:45:45Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> If there’s a “no unauthorized passengers” rule, why should the fact that he picked up 3 cops instead of 3 bakers or 3 janitors make a difference?

'Cause they’d have shot him if he hadn’t? 🙂

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-three-cops-get-fired-by-your-boss/592210/4 "2011-08-14T12:23:12Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> I don’t know - unmarked car, and it sounds like the cops weren’t in uniform. It’s not like they were in danger for their lives or were in hot pursuit of an escaped felon - it was just that their car had flooded. If there’s a “no unauthorized passengers” rule, why should the fact that he picked up 3 cops instead of 3 bakers or 3 janitors make a difference?

Because, as has been shown repeatedly, people seem to think cops have the right to tell them what to do, and the cops were telling him what to do. Sure, they wouldn’t have shot at him, but it wouldn’t surprise me if he didn’t know he was allowed to not help them.

And, even if he were allowed, he might have the other opinion of cops: that they are all evil. They know his license number, and he could wind up in more trouble the next time they meet.

Finally, the stated reason for not wanting strange passengers is that they’d place the students at risk. Verified cops are the exact opposite of adding risk.

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**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-three-cops-get-fired-by-your-boss/592210/5 "2011-08-14T12:40:06Z")

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The link says he has been re-instated now. Sanity prevails.

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**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-three-cops-get-fired-by-your-boss/592210/6 "2011-08-14T15:58:19Z")

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> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#):
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> The link says he has been re-instated now. Sanity prevails.

Publicity prevails. I suspect sanity had little to do with it.

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**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-three-cops-get-fired-by-your-boss/592210/7 "2011-08-14T17:46:46Z")

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> [@Moonlitherial](#):
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> Publicity prevails. I suspect sanity had little to do with it.

In this case, it’s one and same. You seriously think someone deserves to lose their job over something like this?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-three-cops-get-fired-by-your-boss/592210/8 "2011-08-14T18:41:53Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> “No good deed” and all that. Unbelieveable: [AOL - Finance News & Latest Business Headlines - AOL.com](http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2011/08/09/bus-driver-george-daw-fired-for-saving-3-police-officers/?ncid=webmail3)
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> But I suspect - I hope! - he’ll be reinstated soon.

And so he has been, as I thought. He didn’t _have_ to help the cops, but he did, which was the civic-minded thing to do, and he certainly shouldn’t have been penalized for it. Glad that sanity has, indeed, prevailed.

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**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-three-cops-get-fired-by-your-boss/592210/9 "2011-08-14T18:43:57Z")

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> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#):
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> In this case, it’s one and same. You seriously think someone deserves to lose their job over something like this?

No, no, I was just pointing out that his bosses hadn’t suddenly become sane 🙂

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**Author:** ![BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-three-cops-get-fired-by-your-boss/592210/10 "2011-08-15T09:36:26Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Finally, the stated reason for not wanting strange passengers is that they’d place the students at risk. Verified cops are the exact opposite of adding risk.

I’ll reserve judgement until information other than that article comes out, but as it stands

> [@article](#):
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> "They’re saying, ‘You’ve got to help us, you’ve got to help us,’ " Daw told NBC. " ‘You’ve got to get us to the third precinct. We’re police officers.’ "

picking up people who say they’re cops?? You best believe that I’d be pretty pissed about someone transporting kids picking up 3 dudes who “say” they’re cops.

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-three-cops-get-fired-by-your-boss/592210/11 "2011-08-15T10:14:59Z")

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> [@BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](#):
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> … picking up people who say they’re cops?? You best believe that I’d be pretty pissed about someone transporting kids picking up 3 dudes who “say” they’re cops.

If they were impersonating cops, do you think they would ask to be taken to a police station?

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**Author:** ![ecseas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ecseas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ecseas)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-three-cops-get-fired-by-your-boss/592210/12 "2011-08-15T12:24:44Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Finally, the stated reason for not wanting strange passengers is that they’d place the students at risk. Verified cops are the exact opposite of adding risk.

Not necessarily. A cop is just as likely to be a bad person as anyone. My grandma has always told me “Never get in a cop car by yourself, if there is no reason to.”

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**Author:** ![Zulema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/db5fbb/32.png) [@Zulema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zulema)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-three-cops-get-fired-by-your-boss/592210/13 "2011-08-15T14:17:50Z")

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> [@Giles](#):
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> If they were impersonating cops, do you think they would ask to be taken to a police station?

Three escaped prisoners steal a police car then ask to be taken to the police station so the bus driver will believe that they are policemen. Once on the bus they pull out guns and hijack the bus to take them where they really want to go.

I would have liked to hear that the bus driver verified they were who they said they were before he let them on the bus. Seems to me real police would have been able to get out of a car in a puddle or at least been able to call for help from the police station. Would the real police leave their police car unattended to all go back to the station?

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**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-three-cops-get-fired-by-your-boss/592210/14 "2011-08-15T17:00:57Z")

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> [@Zulema](#):
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> Three escaped prisoners steal a police car then ask to be taken to the police station so the bus driver will believe that they are policemen. Once on the bus they pull out guns and hijack the bus to take them where they really want to go.

If that was their intent, why not draw the gun to gain access to the bus?

Honestly, give the guy a break. Would you feel comfortable saying no to three insistent police officers if you were a school bus driver?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-three-cops-get-fired-by-your-boss/592210/15 "2011-08-15T17:15:24Z")

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> [@Zulema](#):
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> Three escaped prisoners steal a police car then ask to be taken to the police station so the bus driver will believe that they are policemen. Once on the bus they pull out guns and hijack the bus to take them where they really want to go.

I like what I’m hearing, kid. Let’s greenlight this piece of shit!

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-three-cops-get-fired-by-your-boss/592210/16 "2011-08-15T17:21:04Z")

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> [@fluiddruid](#):
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> If that was their intent, why not draw the gun to gain access to the bus?

They’re sneaky.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-three-cops-get-fired-by-your-boss/592210/17 "2011-08-15T17:31:15Z")

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It _is_ odd that the article doesn’t say how the officers established their identities. I assume they showed badges, but who knows?

Obligatory _Treasure of the Sierra Madre_ joke in one, two, three…

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-three-cops-get-fired-by-your-boss/592210/18 "2011-08-15T17:33:05Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> It _is_ odd that the article doesn’t say how the officers established their identities. I assume they showed badges, but who knows?
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> Obligatory _Treasure of the Sierra Madre_ joke in one, two, three…

We don’t need no stinking Sierra Madre jokes!

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**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-three-cops-get-fired-by-your-boss/592210/19 "2011-08-15T17:40:44Z")

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> [@Giles](#):
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> We don’t need no stinking Sierra Madre jokes!

Well played!  
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**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-three-cops-get-fired-by-your-boss/592210/20 "2011-08-16T01:58:40Z")

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More in this line: [Victim of Indonesian mob attack sent to jail](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20110815/as-indonesia-religious-killings/).

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> An Indonesian man wounded when Islamic hard-liners launched a deadly attack on his minority sect was sentenced Monday to six months in prison – more than some of those caught on video taking part in the lynching.

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