# Help with a "management" aphorism

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-a-management-aphorism/42974>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [November 28, 2000, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-a-management-aphorism/42974 "2000-11-28T03:49:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![woolly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ebca7d/32.png) [@woolly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woolly)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2000, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-a-management-aphorism/42974/1 "2000-11-28T03:49:27Z")

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Can anyone in the TM help me with a business quotation?

Paraphrased it goes something like:  
“If management engages a consultant to do what management should be doing, it’s time to get new management.”

I have a feeling that it was from Jack Welch, but it’s such a home truth it could have originated much earlier and been stated by many. The other ones I was thinking of were Al Dunlap and Joseph Heller.

Thanks in advance 🙂

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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2000, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-a-management-aphorism/42974/2 "2000-11-28T16:07:26Z")

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\<\< shrug \>\>

\<\< courtesy bump from page 2 \>\>

🙂