# Help with romanization and translation **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 17, 2019, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-romanization-and-translation/831251 "2019-03-17T05:48:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Spherical\_Bus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@Spherical\_Bus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spherical_Bus)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-romanization-and-translation/831251/1 "2019-03-17T05:48:56Z")
Since the Orange Room over at [www.oroom.org](http://www.oroom.org) won’t do it (and banned me until a couple weeks ago for it), I’ll post my request here since I don’t where to post these kinds of threads I’d like the song called “نشيد القوات المسلحة الجنوبي” (@ [نشيد القوات المسلحة الجنوبية - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZh_6GasVZA)\*\*) to be translated into English from Arabic and romanized according to the following conventions in the EALL standard except where: 1. ذ is ð instead of ḏ 2. غ is ɣ instead of gh 3. ث is θ instead of ṯ 4. ح is ħ instead of ḥ 5. ء/ع are ʕ/ʔ instead of ʿ/ʾ 6. Emphatic consonants (ص, ظ, ض, and ط) have a ˤ after them instead of a dot under. 7. ج can be either ž, j, or g depending on dialect 8. Go according to the dialect you hear; for example, if you hear zˤ instead of ðˤ or if you hear dˤ instead of ðˤ put the former in and vice versa\* \*all four of these are for ظ \*\* there’s a comment in Arabic posting the apparent lyrics there (5 verses one chorus), those might help ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-romanization-and-translation/831251/2 "2019-03-17T09:48:59Z")
**Moderator Action** Since this involves song lyrics, let’s move this to Cafe Society (from ATMB). ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-romanization-and-translation/831251/3 "2019-03-18T02:08:08Z")
You might try a specialized Reddit forum such as: > **[r/translation](https://www.reddit.com/r/translation/)** > > r/translation: Please check out /r/translator for requesting translations, or /r/TranslationStudies for discussion about translation. > **[r/translator](https://www.reddit.com/r/translator/)** > > r/translator: r/translator is \*the\* community for Reddit translation requests. Need something translated? Post here! We will help you translate any … ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-romanization-and-translation/831251/4 "2019-03-18T02:17:10Z")
I can give you the [poor man’s 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but I don’t know Arabic and even if I did, I don’t think I’d be interested in following all of your rules, for no compensation, as a favor to a stranger. ---
**Author:** ![Spherical\_Bus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@Spherical\_Bus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spherical_Bus)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-romanization-and-translation/831251/5 "2019-03-18T02:59:32Z")
en em en em en em en em en em en em ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-romanization-and-translation/831251/6 "2019-03-18T03:18:21Z")
> [@DMC](#): > > I can give you the [poor man’s 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9%D9%87%D9%80%D9%80%D9%80%D9%80%D9%80%D9%80%D8%AF%D9%87%20%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%80%D9%85%D9%80%D9%80%D9%80%D9%80%D9%80%D9%80%D9%80%D9%80%D9%80%D9%80%D9%80%D9%80%D8%A7%D9%8B%0A%D8%A3%D9%86%D9%80%D9%80%D9%80%D9%80%D8%A7%20%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D9%86%D9%80%D9%80%D8%A7%D8%A8%D9%80%D9%80%D9%80%D9%80%D9%80%D9%80%D9%84%20%D9%88%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B7%D9%80%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%80%D9%80%D9%80%D9%80%D9%80%D9%80%D9%80%D9%80%D9%80%D8%B1%D9%87%0A.), but I don’t know Arabic and even if I did, I don’t think I’d be interested in following all of your rules, for no compensation, as a favor to a stranger. Oh, man–I literally L’ed OL at “Our glorious revolution/And a protector of ground-breaking avian influenza.” ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-romanization-and-translation/831251/7 "2019-03-18T03:22:09Z")
> [@Spherical\_Bus](#): > > en em en em en em en em en em en em Huh? Was about to give recommendations, but I didn’t catch the “NO compensation” (but it didn’t sound like you were asking for a favor, there were no thanks proffered). I think you’ll have better luck if you can pay someone – it’s a lot of work, especially if you’ve got custom translating rules like you specified. Is there a reason you’re avoiding offering even a small fee? ---
**Author:** ![Spherical\_Bus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@Spherical\_Bus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spherical_Bus)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-romanization-and-translation/831251/8 "2019-03-18T03:41:57Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Huh? > > Was about to give recommendations, but I didn’t catch the “NO compensation” (but it didn’t sound like you were asking for a favor, there were no thanks proffered). > > I think you’ll have better luck if you can pay someone – it’s a lot of work, especially if you’ve got custom translating rules like you specified. Is there a reason you’re avoiding offering even a small fee? Sorry that incoherent post was a bump Besides that, my financial situation is terrible (poor), so I cannot pay. ---
**Author:** ![Spherical\_Bus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@Spherical\_Bus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spherical_Bus)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-romanization-and-translation/831251/9 "2019-03-18T03:43:08Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Oh, man–I literally L’ed OL at “Our glorious revolution/And a protector of ground-breaking avian influenza.” As far as I know the first line is supposed to be along the lines of “I am \_\_of the revolution of \_\_” ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-romanization-and-translation/831251/10 "2019-03-18T04:12:51Z")
On [Babelfish](https://www.babelfish.com/), “And a protector of ground-breaking avian influenza” is “And my mom crazy land fever family” and on [Bing](https://www.bing.com/translator) it is “And my mother is on the ground.” ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-romanization-and-translation/831251/11 "2019-03-18T07:43:22Z")
Well, it’s not the South Yemen national anthem, so that’s as far as my Google-fu took me (my high school Arabic didn’t even get me close). ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-romanization-and-translation/831251/12 "2019-03-18T09:42:58Z")
Before starting, please note that the last letter was left out of the song title in the OP. Fixed it for you: نشيد القوات المسلحة الجنوبية First, I’d like to [romanize](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanization_of_Arabic) the title: Nashīd al-Qūwāt al-Musallaħah al-Janūbīyah Hymn of the Southern Armed Forces ---
**Author:** ![Spherical\_Bus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@Spherical\_Bus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spherical_Bus)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-romanization-and-translation/831251/13 "2019-03-18T13:21:42Z")
> [@Johanna](#): > > Before starting, please note that the last letter was left out of the song title in the OP. Fixed it for you: نشيد القوات المسلحة الجنوبية > > First, I’d like to [romanize](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanization_of_Arabic) the title: > > Nashīd al-Qūwāt al-Musallaħah al-Janūbīyah > > Hymn of the Southern Armed Forces Oh I missed the ة there ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-romanization-and-translation/831251/14 "2019-03-18T13:56:16Z")
I’m a professional translator. My rate for ar \> en translations is $0.10 per word. But I’ll offer you a Dope discount at only $0.08 per word. ---
**Author:** ![Spherical\_Bus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@Spherical\_Bus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spherical_Bus)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-romanization-and-translation/831251/15 "2019-03-18T20:49:55Z")
> [@Johanna](#): > > I’m a professional translator. My rate for ar \> en translations is $0.10 per word. But I’ll offer you a Dope discount at only $0.08 per word. Per arabic word or english word? Don’t include title, that’s already done btw ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-romanization-and-translation/831251/16 "2019-03-18T21:53:28Z")
Per English word. Yes, the title is a freebie. ---
**Author:** ![Spherical\_Bus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@Spherical\_Bus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spherical_Bus)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-romanization-and-translation/831251/17 "2019-03-19T00:14:19Z")
> [@Johanna](#): > > Per English word. Yes, the title is a freebie. well how much will it cost? Habe you added up the cost? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-romanization-and-translation/831251/18 "2019-03-19T00:35:20Z")
> [@Spherical\_Bus](#): > > well how much will it cost? Habe you added up the cost? She’s not going to translate it before she in paid for it! The really horrible Google translation is 317 words. The accurate translation will surely be within about 50 words of that, give or take. So that’s 20 or 30 bucks. Which seems pretty cheap for a professional translation. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-romanization-and-translation/831251/19 "2019-03-19T00:50:37Z")
> [@Spherical\_Bus](#): > > well how much will it cost? Habe you added up the cost? Free advice: You’ll have better luck trying to get people to do something for you if you’re kind to them. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-romanization-and-translation/831251/20 "2019-03-19T10:26:52Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > She’s not going to translate it before she in paid for it! Well, I won’t have an exact figure for it until the translation is complete. But I don’t get paid until the product is delivered, just to be clear. Your estimate is helpful. > [@](#): > > The really horrible Google translation is 317 words. The accurate translation will surely be within about 50 words of that, give or take. So that’s 20 or 30 bucks. Which seems pretty cheap for a professional translation. That’s true. I’m able to offer a low price because we’re cutting out the middleman. I’m throwing in the transliteration free of charge! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-romanization-and-translation/831251.md?page=2)