# Help with Spanish, please

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [March 17, 2020, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-spanish-please/849663 "2020-03-17T17:22:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-spanish-please/849663/1 "2020-03-17T17:22:49Z")

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It’s a short passage. Normally I’m pretty good with stuff like this but she slurs a bit too much for me to catch it.

I’m looking for the Spanish words - NOT the translation. Starting at 1:40:

Thanks

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**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-spanish-please/849663/2 "2020-03-17T18:58:47Z")

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I hear it as;

Tomo la pistola  
Quedaba junto a el  
Discuplame padre pero el no vivere

for 1:40 - 2:00

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-spanish-please/849663/3 "2020-03-17T19:14:54Z")

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> [@zimaane](#):
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> I hear it as;
> 
> Tomo la pistola  
> Quedaba junto a el  
> Discuplame padre pero el no vivere
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> for 1:40 - 2:00

I agree, except with these corrections:

Tomo la pistola  
**Que** quedaba junto a el  
Discu **lp** ame padre pero el no vivere

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-spanish-please/849663/4 "2020-03-17T19:29:24Z")

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On the next verse, I don’t catch all the words in the first line, but the last three lines are:

A la batalla se acerco  
Y su ultimo deseo  
Si se realizo

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**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-spanish-please/849663/5 "2020-03-17T19:36:45Z")

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Thank you guys!

If anyone can fill in the gaps I’d appreciate it.

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-spanish-please/849663/6 "2020-03-18T01:15:25Z")

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Ok, I think I have the missing line:

\*Tomo la pistola  
Que quedaba junto a el  
Disculpame padre  
Pero el no vivere

Sin balas en su mano  
A la batalla se acerco  
Y su ultimo deseo  
Si se realizo  
\*

She took the pistol  
That was lying next to him  
“Pardon me Father,  
But he will not live.”

Without bullets in her hand [with an empty gun]  
As the battle approached  
And her last desire  
Was realized

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-spanish-please/849663/7 "2020-03-18T01:23:52Z")

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Discuplame padre pero el no vivere

should be Discuplame padre pero **sin** el no vivere

**without** him I will not live

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-spanish-please/849663/8 "2020-03-18T01:33:08Z")

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An important word is missing in  
Discuplame padre pero el no vivere

It should be \*\*Disculpame \*\*padre pero **sin** el no vivere

**without** him I will not live

Sorry for the double post, the one above got posted before I was done and then gave me error messages when I tried to edit

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-spanish-please/849663/9 "2020-03-18T02:11:24Z")

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> [@gkster](#):
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> Discuplame padre pero el no vivere
> 
> should be Discuplame padre pero **sin** el no vivere
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> **without** him I will not live

Yes, you’re right. Sorry.

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**Post date:** [March 19, 2020, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-spanish-please/849663/10 "2020-03-19T04:37:25Z")

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Thanks again you guys.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2020, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-spanish-please/849663/11 "2020-03-19T05:10:13Z")

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Those vowels… 😛 “vivere” is Italian.

Tomó la pistola que quedaba junto a él discúlpame Padre pero sin él no viviré  
sin balas en su mano a la batalla se acercó y su último deseo si se realizó

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**Post date:** [March 19, 2020, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-spanish-please/849663/12 "2020-03-19T17:10:55Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> Those vowels… 😛 “vivere” is Italian.
> 
> Tomó la pistola que quedaba junto a él discúlpame Padre pero sin él no viviré  
> sin balas en su mano a la batalla se acercó y su último deseo si se realizó

Almost: … **sí** se realizó (accent over the i of sí)

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-spanish-please/849663/13 "2020-03-20T07:19:55Z")

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The help you guys need with Spanish is to place the accents where needed. Otherwise your writing becomes less intelligible. I started out reading “_tomo_” and got misdirected from word one. Do you really imagine that _tomo_ is no different from _tomó_? Or do you just not care? If you want to do Spanish you _have to_ care. The accents are not optional. Omitting them changes the meaning. Pay attention when \*\*Nava \*\*and \*\*jerez \*\*demonstrate how to do it right.

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**Post date:** [March 21, 2020, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-spanish-please/849663/14 "2020-03-21T13:52:52Z")

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> [@jerez](#):
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> Almost: … **sí** se realizó (accent over the i of sí)

Oh snap! I blame Gaudere!

Actually, no. My accentuation has gotten bad ☹ I think it’s got to do with spending a lot more time reading and writing in English than in Spanish. Next piece of homework: an overdose of Pérez-Reverte.

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**Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-spanish-please/849663/15 "2020-03-23T08:27:24Z")

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> [@Johanna](#):
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> The help you guys need with Spanish is to place the accents where needed. Otherwise your writing becomes less intelligible. I started out reading “_tomo_” and got misdirected from word one. Do you really imagine that _tomo_ is no different from _tomó_? Or do you just not care? If you want to do Spanish you _have to_ care. The accents are not optional. Omitting them changes the meaning. Pay attention when \*\*Nava \*\*and \*\*jerez \*\*demonstrate how to do it right.

Well. Yes. But then again no. As seen above, even Nava effed up.  
There is no difference in spoken language. _si_ and _sí_ sounds the same. So you need context to determine meaning. Same with _que_ and _qué_ ASF. The words quoted above makes perfect sense, with or without accents. Now, if you want to write Spanish correctly, you need to perfect those accents or you’ll give the impression of a _maleducado cateto_\*.

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**Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-with-spanish-please/849663/16 "2020-03-23T08:29:43Z")

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> [@Johanna](#):
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> The help you guys need with Spanish is to place the accents where needed. Otherwise your writing becomes less intelligible. I started out reading “_tomo_” and got misdirected from word one. Do you really imagine that _tomo_ is no different from _tomó_? Or do you just not care? If you want to do Spanish you _have to_ care. The accents are not optional. Omitting them changes the meaning. Pay attention when \*\*Nava \*\*and \*\*jerez \*\*demonstrate how to do it right.

Well. Yes. But then again no. As seen above, even Nava effed up.  
There is no difference in spoken language. _si_ and _sí_ sounds the same. So you need context to determine meaning. Same with _que_ and _qué_ ASF. The words quoted above makes perfect sense, with or without accents. Now, if you want to write Spanish correctly, you need to perfect those accents or you’ll give the impression of a _maleducado cateto_\*.

\*or should that be _cateto maleducado_?
