# Hendrix Murder Information Discrimination Protest **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [April 6, 2014, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hendrix-murder-information-discrimination-protest/685487 "2014-04-06T17:30:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2014, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hendrix-murder-information-discrimination-protest/685487/41 "2014-04-07T19:01:46Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > And yet in all the years I’ve been here I can’t recall _one_ poster that has been banned “for no reason whatsoever”. > Why do we supply you with jackboots if you’re not going to use them? I’ll cite the Many Worlds Theory _again._ For every poster who’s been banned for a reason, there must exist (according to the Theory) some world where the same poster was banned for _no_ reason. For this to be possible, the rule must exist to allow this, and the jackboots must be supplied, whether or not they have ever been used that way in _this_ world. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2014, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hendrix-murder-information-discrimination-protest/685487/42 "2014-04-07T19:29:35Z")
I’m reasonably sure there are a lot of Dopers who’d like to read and participate in threads about Jimi Hendrix and his music, without being sucked down the Murder Conspiracy rabbit hole. If that isn’t one of our inalienable rights, it should be. On the other hand, a “Great American Conspiracy Theories” postage stamp set sounds like a great idea. I’m going to write my Congressman, assuming someone in his office knows how to read. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2014, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hendrix-murder-information-discrimination-protest/685487/43 "2014-04-07T19:32:10Z")
> [@Jetblast](#): > > Again, you are retreating to a position that doesn’t answer to or honor the gist of what is being said. I have already made clear that I was referencing the murder according to the context of the OP that you yourself and others also addressed, only by means of the official story rather than his murder. Again, there’s no question that the OP clearly stated that Jimi’s drug use curtailed his career and therefore made him ineligible for a stamp. You and others honored that context by referencing the official story. Some even referenced untrue allusions like heroin and drug overdose asphyxiation. I did nothing different when I referenced the truthful cause of Jimi’s career curtailment, which has much more moral gravity associated with it in terms of the OP’s context than parroting the official lies. Especially on a site that advertizes itself as the “Straight Dope”. I’m assuming since the moderator refuses to answer my protest that he is indirectly admitting he can’t. **Jetblast** , it is true that **aceplace57** included in his OP a remark about Jimi Hendrix’s drug use and used that as part of his justification for his personal opinion about whether Jimi deserves a stamp. It is true other posters discussed the nature of Jimi’s death according to the official story, as you like to put it. Your divergence into a far from official and extremely controversial nature to his death, i.e. that Jimi was murdered and covered up by some nefarious government conspiracy, that is what takes ordinary discussion into somewhat related tangents to the OP and turns a thread into a giant hijack. Your ideas are far-fetched. They have no place in a mainstream discussion on Jimi Hendrix. That is the point and why your remarks were singled out for moderation. Marley stepped in to stop an inflammatory and irrelevant tangent from turning into a Pit Fight in the middle of that thread that was, in bulk and intent, a discussion about the issuance of a stamp and whether or not Jimi deserves that honor. Any discussion of the “official story” (i.e. mainstream accepted version) of his death will not particularly derail the thread, but bringing up a wildly unconventional possibility - even one that could have truth in it - would most definitely turn the thread into a giant debate over that idea, and not whether or not Jimi deserves a stamp. > [@](#): > > As far as I know I violated no site rules and did nothing different than what the others did (only my input had more truthful, verifiable content). Throwing conspiracy theory ideas into mainstream discussions is a frequent source of hijacks, and is rather close to trolling territory. The moderators on this site are [del]paid[/del] expected to oversee precisely those kinds of issues, and intervene exactly as Marley did. > [@](#): > > Proof of that bias is shown in the ridiculous reference to my handle above. I chose the name “Jetblast” because of the obvious lies being told about Flight 800 from the official authorities. So, in other words, what **Marley23** and **samclem** posted is true. You chose your name in reference to ideas that Flight 800 was shot down by a missile. > [@](#): > > Again, while many other members have many types of handles you choose to single mine out as being of a particular nature that influences my input. Well, yes, all of our handles signify something about the nature of our posts, to a degree - some more than others. When a user picks a username based upon a topic discussion, that is moreso than someone who picks a username based upon some esoteric funky sounding phrase or personal pet name or reference to what they overheard their neighbor say. > [@](#): > > Again, that can be nothing other than evidence of a bias since my input can only be weighed by its objective merit on a case by case basis, which is supposed to be the purpose of any discussion board. Any view of my content vs those who oppose me should decide that. People are allowed to personally evaluate other posters based upon other ideas and statements by that poster. That is why we have to register with a set username and are not allowed to post anonymously or use sock puppets. It is accountability for your words. While you are correct that it is a logical fallacy to assume your ideas about Hendrix must be false because you believe conspiracy theories about other topics (like Flight 800), that does not mean people are force-ably constrained to refrain from logical fallacies. In fact, it is a common way people in the real world sort credible from noncredible sources. > [@](#): > > The last answer above makes me fear for credibility and forces me to ask if there is any site recourse for questioning of moderator competency without punishment? Do posters have any protected rights? Not really. I mean, this board operates under a culture of trying to be fair to members, and the moderators are unpaid volunteers who are members first and foremost, so they are influenced by that culture. But ultimately, this board is the whim of the current newspaper company owners and Ed Zotti. Neither of them have any real stake in being fair to you. There really isn’t much of a process for registering complaints about moderation beyond posting them here in ATMB. I suppose any intelligent and halfway internet competent person could come up with a couple more ideas that would raise the level of attention to someone higher on the food chain, but that is not likely to be favorable to you. Anyone above the collective moderators of the board would either be a corporate weenie more interested in keeping all fuss away from themselves and the owners, or else Ed Zotti (who probably feels the same way). Your basic and only feasible step is to complain here in this forum (which you did with this thread) and see if you garner any support from other members (which you have not). Any further harping on the topic is not going to raise your reputation with other members or convince anyone that your cause has merits. It will merely desensitize them to your claims of unfair moderation and unjust treatment, to the point that you will be like the Boy Who Cried Wolf. “There’s that boy again, crying wolf. Somebody slap that kid.” > [@](#): > > I only ask people to honestly evaluate which opinion on this subject has more valid content and credible arguments. I don’t think I’ve committed any violation by doing that. Honestly, is this something that has to be argued so hard in America amongst Americans? I don’t recall the full outcome of that thread (I know I read some but probably gave up on it - I don’t recall), so I don’t know what you’ve been previously instructed on the matter. Normally, it should be safe to say that you are free to start a new thread if you can come up with either new material to support your cause or a new approach to constrain the thread or some other way make a clean start rather than restart whatever hijacks or silliness or whatever got in the way of the last one. But the place to do that is a new thread dedicated to \*that \*topic, not the middle of a thread discussing Jimi Hendrix from a mainstream position. > [@](#): > > In a country that was founded on questioning the government do Americans pile on against the victim of government murder or do they defend him? What has American become? Wait, are you saying _you_ are the victim of government murder? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2014, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hendrix-murder-information-discrimination-protest/685487/44 "2014-04-07T19:53:25Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > Wait, are you saying _you_ are the victim of government murder? No, he’s saying that Jimi was murdered because he knew the secrets of Area 51. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2014, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hendrix-murder-information-discrimination-protest/685487/45 "2014-04-07T21:17:15Z")
Here’s the deal, **Jetblast** : since 2010 all of your posts have been about the Jimi Hendrix conspiracy and [my closing of your thread about that conspiracy](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=672655). The last time you posted about anything else (your TWA 800 theory) was 2009. The term the mods use for this is “being a one trick pony,” and it’s frowned on. As the Registration Agreement says, the board isn’t intended to be a venue where you can bang on and on about the same thing forever. That’s especially true when you’re interrupting a discussion of something else and we have very little patience when a poster makes complaining about the moderation of the board one of his primary activities. If you’re still aggrieved by the closing of a thread from four years ago, you are in desperate need of a new hobby. Get over it. If you want to continue to post here, you need to find something else to talk about. If all you’re interested in is the death of Jimi Hendrix and the way your 2010 thread was handled, the mods will not tolerate you for much longer. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2014, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hendrix-murder-information-discrimination-protest/685487/46 "2014-04-07T23:46:15Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > No, he’s saying that Jimi was murdered because he knew the secrets of Area 51. That’s where they keep the stamps? ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2014, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hendrix-murder-information-discrimination-protest/685487/47 "2014-04-07T23:55:51Z")
I think there’s only one way \*\*Jetblast \*\*could be so sure Jimi was murdered. I say **Jetblast** did it, and either the guilt is eating at him, or he wants recognition hoping Jody Foster will turn straight for him. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2014, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hendrix-murder-information-discrimination-protest/685487/48 "2014-04-08T00:30:31Z")
Janis Joplin killed a homeless man. The lack of attention paid to this critical issue clearly shows the degree of bias and government control this so-called place of “Straight Dope” suffers. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2014, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hendrix-murder-information-discrimination-protest/685487/49 "2014-04-08T00:42:44Z")
Not even Jimi cares if he was heinously murdered any more. Find a new pony, **jetblast**. Nobody, but nobody cares what you think about this one. ---
**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2014, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hendrix-murder-information-discrimination-protest/685487/50 "2014-04-08T02:32:04Z")
Jetblast, a little information \*they \*would prefer we didn’t know: If you end any post with “A4V”, the moment that the software accepts that post it cannot be considered a rules violation by the mods anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2014, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hendrix-murder-information-discrimination-protest/685487/51 "2014-04-08T04:52:40Z")
> [@Crazyhorse](#): > > Jetblast, a little information \*they \*would prefer we didn’t know: > > If you end any post with “A4V”, the moment that the software accepts that post it cannot be considered a rules violation by the mods anymore. That only applies if your idea has fringe on it. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2014, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hendrix-murder-information-discrimination-protest/685487/52 "2014-04-08T05:07:45Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Janis Joplin killed a homeless man. The lack of attention paid to this critical issue clearly shows the degree of bias and government control this so-called place of “Straight Dope” suffers. Johnny Cash shot a man in Reno just to watch him die. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2014, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hendrix-murder-information-discrimination-protest/685487/53 "2014-04-08T06:15:26Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Johnny Cash shot a man in Reno just to watch him die. Johnny Cash himself told this story on stage: A fan once approached him and asked: If you shot a man in Reno, whatcha doing in jail at Folsom? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2014, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hendrix-murder-information-discrimination-protest/685487/54 "2014-04-08T12:32:58Z")
The very day after the OP’s protest is filed, Peaches Geldof is found dead. Coincidence? I think not. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2014, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hendrix-murder-information-discrimination-protest/685487/55 "2014-04-08T14:25:02Z")
Hell, I can go you one better. The very day of this post, I discovered there had been someone in existence named Peaches Geldof! ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hendrix-murder-information-discrimination-protest/685487/56 "2014-04-10T16:10:41Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > On the other hand, a “Great American Conspiracy Theories” postage stamp set sounds like a great idea. I’m going to write my Congressman, assuming someone in his office knows how to read. You’d be better off writing to the Citizens Stamp Advisory Committee. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hendrix-murder-information-discrimination-protest/685487.md?page=2)