# Henry Cavill out in latest DC shakeup **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** hbomax-wb-dc\ **Created:** [December 15, 2022, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-cavill-out-in-latest-dc-shakeup/976585 "2022-12-15T14:15:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-cavill-out-in-latest-dc-shakeup/976585/21 "2022-12-18T18:44:15Z")
Meh. Cavill has always seemed too grim for the role of Superman. His default facial expression is “Something smells really bad, and I think it’s you.” I suspect a more cheerful Supes is up next. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-cavill-out-in-latest-dc-shakeup/976585/22 "2022-12-18T18:52:54Z")
> [@bump](#): > > That’s what I’d read as well- he was a big fan of the books, and basically got tired of the writers mocking the source material and having to fight with them about how things should be. Beyond that, he wasn’t happy with being tied up in Eastern Europe for the entirety of the filming and felt it was keeping him from other opportunities. Superman or not, it just seemed like he was burnt out on being a part of this series. ---
**Author:** ![WhyKickAMooCow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9fc29f/32.png) [@WhyKickAMooCow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyKickAMooCow)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-cavill-out-in-latest-dc-shakeup/976585/23 "2022-12-19T11:30:33Z")
Maybe he should have just shaved his mustache and not cost the producers $50m or whatever it was. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47774/32.png) [@epbrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-cavill-out-in-latest-dc-shakeup/976585/24 "2022-12-19T16:53:54Z")
That wasn’t his call, but Tom Cruise and the team shooting Mission: Impossible. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-cavill-out-in-latest-dc-shakeup/976585/25 "2022-12-19T17:16:39Z")
Why would shaving his mustache cost the producers that much money? In other words, what was the story there? (I don’t remember this.) ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-cavill-out-in-latest-dc-shakeup/976585/26 "2022-12-19T17:18:47Z")
Cavill wouldn’t shave his mustache for one of his stints as Superman (he needed it for another film he was also in) and the studio decided to instead incompetently CGI it out. It was $3m though, not $50m+ in costs. > **[Henry Cavill’s mustache nearly became a $3M problem for Paramount](https://www.polygon.com/2018/8/2/17642534/henry-cavill-mustache-justice-league-mission-impossible-fallout-warner-bros)** > > DC producer asked Mission: Impossible - Fallout director for a favor ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-cavill-out-in-latest-dc-shakeup/976585/27 "2022-12-19T17:22:23Z")
In specific, as that article notes, WB needed Cavill to come back for extensive reshoots on _Justice League_, but by that point, he had already grown a mustache for his role in _Mission: Impossible – Fallout_, and the other studio refused to let him shave off the mustache. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-cavill-out-in-latest-dc-shakeup/976585/28 "2022-12-19T17:29:55Z")
And the Mission Impossible studio was right in that it _should_ be a lot easier to digitally remove hair and replace it with bare skin than it is to take bare skin and digitally add a mustache that doesn’t look like a novelty gag on the big screen. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-cavill-out-in-latest-dc-shakeup/976585/29 "2022-12-19T19:50:41Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > And the Mission Impossible studio was right in that it _should_ be a lot easier to digitally remove hair and replace it with bare skin than it is to take bare skin and digitally add a mustache that doesn’t look like a novelty gag on the big screen. ⁢ Maybe, but you’d also think that it’d be easier to give someone a realistic fake mustache than to do anything digitally at all. I’ve definitely been surprised by what facial hair is fake when watching behind the scenes stuff. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-cavill-out-in-latest-dc-shakeup/976585/30 "2022-12-19T21:34:11Z")
If they had already filmed scenes with the real mustache, it would presumably be much harder to make a fake mustache that matched his real mustache. And here’s the [instagram video Cavill made when he shaved off the mustache.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jTXLc4xqag) ---
**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-cavill-out-in-latest-dc-shakeup/976585/31 "2022-12-20T02:34:15Z")
With Robert Pattinson playing Batman maybe they get another _Twilight_ actor to play Superman–Taylor Lautner!! ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-cavill-out-in-latest-dc-shakeup/976585/32 "2022-12-20T02:49:31Z")
“I’m off to rethcue Loith Lane.” ---
**Author:** ![epbrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47774/32.png) [@epbrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-cavill-out-in-latest-dc-shakeup/976585/33 "2022-12-20T09:18:32Z")
The goal is to skew the character younger. At 30, Lautner is _older_ than Cavill was in **Man of Steel.** Though going younger than that throws out the current origin story trope that Clark Kent, like Bruce Wayne, wandered the planet incognito for years before becoming a superhero at 29. ---
**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-cavill-out-in-latest-dc-shakeup/976585/34 "2022-12-20T13:26:51Z")
Fair enough. Though with the way Hollywood works— a 30 year old actor playing someone 10 years younger would NOT be a RARE occurrence. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-cavill-out-in-latest-dc-shakeup/976585/35 "2022-12-20T21:16:01Z")
> [@epbrown](#): > > Though going younger than that throws out the current origin story trope that Clark Kent, like Bruce Wayne, wandered the planet incognito for years before becoming a superhero at 29. But, did he first reveal his true nature to a group of fishermen? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-cavill-out-in-latest-dc-shakeup/976585/36 "2022-12-21T02:29:53Z")
> [@dorvann](#): > > With Robert Pattinson playing Batman maybe they get another _Twilight_ actor to play Superman–Taylor Lautner!! Sure. Who says Superman can’t be short. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-cavill-out-in-latest-dc-shakeup/976585.md?page=1)